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Hey Community,

 

For some time I'm experiencing quite low FPS. Whenever I use an ENB (without DOF an SSAO) my FPS shrink down to 28 in Hjaalmarch, where I tested it, because Hjaalmarch is quite graphics intensive. I tried the Project ENB without any Hardware Antialiasing and REalvision ENB with SweetFX. For both I received the same results. I have the STEP Pack with some other mods installed; all of my texture mods are downscaled to 1K.

 

Without any ENB I only receive about 50 FPS. That's not quite good I think; in earlier times I was able to reach more than 40 FPS outdoor with an ENB.

 

Does anyone have some suggestions about my problem?

 

My Specs:

Win 7 Home 64bit

NVIDIA GTX560TI 2GB VRAM with 314.22 driver

8 GB RAM

Intel i7-2600K 4x3.4GHz

 

 

My INI's:

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In NVIDIA Inspector I only increased thr Texture filtering - Quality to 'high quality'

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ENB uses Software techniques for AO, Dof, AA, etc. It's much more intensive for your system.

I run on a severaly OC-ed GTX680/4GB and get 40-50 FPS outside using ENB and 2K Lite textures.

I had a GTX560Ti before this and with ENB and the same mods I had around 20-25 FPS in the same areas.

So what you experience might be completely normal...

 

Previous references to ENB are of no use because each ENB is different - one is more efficient than the other (either binary or the associated .fx files and .ini settings)...

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Both those ENB's are very heavy on your system...

 

For the sake of comparison you can check if it's those specific ENBs by simply downloading ENB 0.119 from the website http://www.enbdev.com/mod_tesskyrim_v0119.htm
Copy everything from the Wrapper folder into Skyrim folder (make backup of your current ENB if you wish). Open enbseries.ini and make sure you put the relevant effects to "false". Make sure on driver level everything is set to off/disable for anything AA or AO related, and in Skyrim as well.

 

Also, texture filtering "High Quality" as opposed to just "Quality" looks the same. The difference is that the textures will not receive any compression when you use high quality. You will not notice a difference in game unless you start to take screenshots and compare them at 400% magnification.

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My issue is not ENB related.

I get only 45 FPS without ENB in this area. When Project ENB is activated, then I just get 15 FPS less.

 

The problem are these 45 FPS without ENB, because my system should handle this even with those texture packs.

But in my opinion 45 FPS are too low.

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Then there is something you must have changed that impacts performance...

 

Texture mods

Driver settings or update

Skyrim ini settings

...etc

 

Kinda hard because that's basically your configuration. You can try Skyrim Performance Monitor to view how many resources are being used during play... if you overclocked things you might wanna check if clocks are not being throttled back due to heat build-up (summer weather, dust, etc). You can do a defrag on your HDD if you use one of those spinning devices ;) perhaps check your page file... do you reboot daily or go to sleep mode... mehh can think of another 100 reason if you want.

 

You basically wanna make a backup of Skyrim and reinstall the vanilla game and check performance with only ENB enabled to have a good baseline... because wild guessing on ~5 FPS is everyone's best guess.

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I'm using Performance Monitor:

My average GPU-usage is ca. 1.4 GB

My average RAM-usage is ca. 1.7 GB

 

The INI's are not the problem because I resetted them already

 

I'll now try to reinstall all of my landscape-texture mods

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I reinstalled all of my landscape retextures, but this step didn't even gain me 1 frame.

 

Any other idea? Could mods slow my fps down?

 

Mods slow your FPS down, textures, meshes... anything that requires some sort of computing power will technically slow it down... I bet I can easily pull 100+ FPS on ultra if I turn off my mods, probably even more (never tested it).

 

Does your VRAM spike to 2GB? (meaning it will start swapping textures) that will definitely slow stuff down.

 

You said you reset your game's ini files, have you tweaked anything in them? Do you use SFO + Grass on Steriods? Did you enable shadows on everything (most notably on Grass)? Have you checked your startup programs in msconfig and disabled everything you dont need? Have you disabled background processes/services that you dont need? Have you tried to set the TESV.exe into compatibility mode disabling all the Win7 goodies which it doesn't need (which cost you around 200MB VRAM)? You can try and reset yoru nVidia profile back, perhaps you set something the game doesnt like?

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I use SFO Baic 1K but not Grass on Steroids + tweak "iMinGrassSize=40"

With the ENB I use DrawLandShadows but not ShadowsonGrass

I did msconfig some time ago and disabled most of the processes

There are hardly any background processes running

I setted my NVIDIA profile back before posting this problem

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