matortheeternal Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I hope that ethical dilemmas will slow the production of this technology, but as other people have said - in the current world, if there's money associated with an idea someone, somewhere, will pursue it. Just hope that it will be the right people in the right environment with the right concerns so as to not screw us all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPariah Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Who says that AI's are inherently malevolent anyways?I just have a feeling that they'll be surprizingly... human like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroKing Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I really doubt machines will rise up against humanity, if we set control limits to their self-awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1029 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well, imagine a machine that was as smart as a human right now. Individually it's not very powerful and would not do anything "bad". But collectively, who's to say they won't view humans as "inferior". Without emotions, they won't make rash decisions like humans do, but ethics won't get in the way of decisions. What that means is, if they decide we no longer deserve to exist, they will follow through. Now the underlying purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. So if we hold the kill-switches, chances are they won't try anything, because they want to exist. They would be kind of like a Virus. They require a host to repopulate, and that host is us and our factories. Now if they were given controls to automate their own reproduction in factories... I shudder at the thought of what they might view us as. Would they treat us a Gods? Their creators? Or will they find we have run our course and are no longer useful. Stuff to think about. Once something is allowed to think and have ideas, the sky's the limit. It's what makes us human, and it's something that we do not observe from any other living thing in the universe... Yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matortheeternal Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Well, imagine a machine that was as smart as a human right now. Individually it's not very powerful and would not do anything "bad". But collectively, who's to say they won't view humans as "inferior". Without emotions, they won't make rash decisions like humans do, but ethics won't get in the way of decisions. What that means is, if they decide we no longer deserve to exist, they will follow through. Now the underlying purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. So if we hold the kill-switches, chances are they won't try anything, because they want to exist. They would be kind of like a Virus. They require a host to repopulate, and that host is us and our factories. Now if they were given controls to automate their own reproduction in factories... I shudder at the thought of what they might view us as. Would they treat us a Gods? Their creators? Or will they find we have run our course and are no longer useful. Stuff to think about. Once something is allowed to think and have ideas, the sky's the limit. It's what makes us human, and it's something that we do not observe from any other living thing in the universe... Yet. They could be given emotions. Emotions aren't necessarily only human, contrary to popular belief. They are just mental subroutines that arrive from the notion of self vs. other. They could even be emergent phenomena for all we know. If you reduce the differences between a machine/AI and a human being to a considerable degree the problems unique to their existence become more so related to rights and equality between "them" and "us". If you leave a large gap between what we do and what they do we run the risk of conflict/rampant AIs. At least, that's what science fiction works teach us. Edited June 27, 2013 by matortheeternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1029 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well, imagine a machine that was as smart as a human right now. Individually it's not very powerful and would not do anything "bad". But collectively, who's to say they won't view humans as "inferior". Without emotions, they won't make rash decisions like humans do, but ethics won't get in the way of decisions. What that means is, if they decide we no longer deserve to exist, they will follow through. Now the underlying purpose of life is to survive and reproduce. So if we hold the kill-switches, chances are they won't try anything, because they want to exist. They would be kind of like a Virus. They require a host to repopulate, and that host is us and our factories. Now if they were given controls to automate their own reproduction in factories... I shudder at the thought of what they might view us as. Would they treat us a Gods? Their creators? Or will they find we have run our course and are no longer useful. Stuff to think about. Once something is allowed to think and have ideas, the sky's the limit. It's what makes us human, and it's something that we do not observe from any other living thing in the universe... Yet. They could be given emotions. Emotions aren't necessarily only human, contrary to popular belief. They are just mental subroutines that arrive from the notion of self vs. other. They could even be emergent phenomena for all we know. If you reduce the differences between a machine/AI and a human being to a considerable degree the problems unique to their existence become more so related to rights and equality between "them" and "us". If you leave a large gap between what we do and what they do we run the risk of conflict/rampant AIs. At least, that's what science fiction works teach us. Emotions are caused by hormones, which AI wouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor. Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) And so is language, its been spotted with Prairie Dogs, very complex social structure. http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/prairie_dog_language_translated_they_think_were_fat_20130604/ If animals and do it, i see no reason why computers can't. Edited June 27, 2013 by Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matortheeternal Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) Emotions are caused by hormones, which AI wouldn't have. That's false. Hormones influence emotions, they don't cause them. info Furthermore a hormone is just a chemical actor in a human's neurological system. There's no reason an analogous computerized "hormone" (it wouldn't be a physical thing, just a subroutine) couldn't be developed for an AI. Edited June 28, 2013 by matortheeternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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