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Hi all

I have been playing Skyrim for some years now on a rather old PC. I have enjoyed the experience so far, but soon I'm getting a new PC and I wanted to take this opportunity to play Skyrim again, but this time very heavily modded.

My previous specs:

  • Geforce 9600 GT
  • AMD Phenom II x4 945
  • 4GB RAM
  • Win7 32bit

My previous load order:



# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
SPIKE.esm
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp
KillingTraps.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
High Level Enemies.esp
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp
Dawnguard & Dragonborn Meltdowns.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
SkyUI.esp
HeavyArmorTree.esp
SpeechTree.esp
SmithingTreeDG.esp
ERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.esp
ERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
ERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons DD.esp
ERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp
ERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp
ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp
ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x2.5.esp
ERSO 07 - Mighty Dragon Priests.esp
ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard Dragonborn.esp
ERSO 08.1 - ERSO EXTREME MIRAAK.esp
ERSO 08.2 - ERSO EXTREME HARKON.esp
ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp
ERSO 09.1 - Essential Children.esp
ERSO 13.03 - Higher Skill Cap 125 with perks.esp
ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp
ERSO 14.03 - Vendor Soul Gems Only Empty And Very Rare.esp
ERSO 14.02 - Harder barter 8-4.esp
ERSO 14.04 - Vendors Without Animal Parts.esp
ERSO 14.05 - Vendor Without Minerals.esp
ERSO 14.06 - Vendor Minor Enchanted Weapons Armors Very Rare.esp
ERSO 14.07 - Vendor Very Less Weapons Armors.esp
ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 15 days.esp
ERSO 17 - Training cost 4.0x.esp
ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp
ERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.esp
ERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.esp
ERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.esp
ERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.esp
ERSO 23 - Lockpicking Perks Changes.esp
ERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.esp
ERSO 26 - Realistic Fall Damages.esp
ERSO 27 - Better Archery Stuff DawnDborn.esp
ERSO 28 - Killmoves G.esp
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
LightArmorTree.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
DiamondArmorN.esp
DiamondCrossbow.esp
DiamondWeaponsN.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
LPotD Armor.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
Earrings Set1.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Mighty Magick - Alteration.esp
Mighty Magick - Alteration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Conjuration.esp
Mighty Magick - Conjuration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Destruction.esp
Mighty Magick - Dual Casting.esp
Mighty Magick - Enchantments Rebalance.esp
Mighty Magick - Illusion.esp
Mighty Magick - Illusion Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Restoration.esp
Mighty Magick - Restoration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Scaling.esp
Mighty Magick - Voice.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Immersive Potions.esp
Kevin's Deadly Poisons.esp
Kevin's Deadly Poisons - TRAPS.esp
disenchantment_font.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp
Immersive Perks Followers for AFT.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
moveitLWT.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
zMy SpellTome Edits.esp
zMy LPotD Cape Requirement Fix.esp
zMy Gamesetting and Equipment Edits.esp
zMy Jewelry Edits.esp
zMy ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore Edits.esp
zMy ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Comp Patch.esp
zMy Diamond Smithing Armor Rating & Melee Damage Edits.esp
zMy Immersive Equipment Edits.esp
zMy Illusion and Conjuration Perks Edits.esp
zMy Super Mighty Deadly Dragons Edits & Comp Patch.esp
zMy Potions Drinks Food Patch.esp
zMy Ingredients Comp Patch.esp
zMy Perk Comp Patch.esp
zMy Race NO DRAGONS Comp Patch 2.esp
zMy NPC Comp Patch 2.esp
zMy Vilja No Level Cap.esp
zMy Magic & Spell Comp Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp



Extra things you should know about my previous setup:

  • I use the Community Uncapper already. (skill caps set to 999, modified skill/xp gains as well)
  • I manually added armor piercing perks to the diamond crossbows (and other weapons) to make them like the Dawnguard ones.
  • I made custom patches which increase the damage, armor and value of modded gear to make it more attractive over the Vanilla ones.
  • I made my own custom Compatibility patches to make everything more stable.
  • I modified several game settings. (like Armor Scaling)
  • I play on lowest graphical settings because my GPU is rather ancient.
  • I didn't use any graphical enhancing mods, also due to my old GPU.
  • I compressed all textures (including those in BSAs) to below 512 kB with the Texture Optimizer (Ordenador), to make it even easier for my GPU.
  • I originally used NMM, but I switched to Mod Organizer after a while and now I'm only using that.
  • I cleaned all my mods, including Bethesda masters, I even loaded and saved all older mods (version 0.94) in the CK (to make them version 1.7).
  • I keep my savegame file folder as small as possible by copying older saves to a seperate folder.
  • I try and keep all of mods up to date, I check the Nexus daily.

Utilities/programs I'm using:

  • Mod Organizer (General mod managing)
  • Wyre Bash (Making Bash Patches)
  • BOSS (Load Order sorting)
  • Creation Kit (Updating old 0.94 version mods to version 1.7, managing scripts)
  • TES5Edit (ITM, UDR cleaning, Making Compatibility Patches, Making small changes (value, weight, damage, armor rating, ...) to mods)
  • SKSE (obvious reasons)
  • Notepad++ (reading scripts)
  • Ordenador (Texture Optimizer)

My new PC specs will be:

  • Geforce GTX 770
  • i5 4670
  • 250GB SSD
  • 16GB RAM
  • Win7 64bit
  • (Not planning on doing any overclocking)

Mods I'm planning to uninstall:

  • Brawl Bugs CE (already included in USKP)
  • SmithingTreeDG (old)
  • HeavyArmorTree (old)
  • LightArmorTree (old)
  • LPotD armor (old)
  • zMy LPotD Cape requirement fix (has LPotD as master)
  • EMCompViljaSkyrim (gonna try different followers)
  • EMViljaInSolsteim (has EMCompViljaSkyrim as master)
  • zMy Vilja No Level Cap (has EMCompViljaSkyrim as master)
  • Duel: Combat Realism (is being replaced by Ultimate Combat)
  • ERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone
  • ERSO 09.1 - Essential Children
  • ERSO 21.01 - PM Dungeons
  • ERSO 21.01 - PM Blackreach
  • ERSO 21.01 - PM Dwemer
  • Upgraded Weapons and Armor
  • Follower Trap Safety

Mods I'm thinking about adding to my load order:

 

Graphics/Lightning/Textures

  • Climates of Tamriel
  • Realistic Lightning Overhaul
  • W.A.T.E.R.
  • Shooting Stars
  • Rainbows
  • Skyrim Flora Overhaul
  • aMidianBorn Book of Silence and other aMidianBorn Retextures
  • An HD Texture Pack (not sure which one though?)
  • Static Mesh Improvement Mod
  • Get Snowy
  • Automatic Variants
  • Destructable Bottles
  • Lanterns of Skyrim
  • Book Covers Skyrim
  • Not sure about ENBs yet though...

Mods for a new start

  • Random Alternate Start (hopefully won't generate the HelgenStartScript error CTD)
  • Character Creation Overhaul
  • Apachii Hair

Economy

  • Economics of Skyrim (Renting Workstations looks realistic) OR Skyrim Medieval Economy (lots of nice changes)
  • Trade and Barter (I'm getting this one for sure!)
  • Realistic Inn Rentals
  • Any mod that makes services (Carriages, Houses, Decorations, etc) more expensive.(Any idea which one does that?)

Weapons

  • Throwing Weapons Redux
  • Any other weapon mod that gives weapons to NPCs (leveled lists) like Immersive Weapons and Armors do.

Music

  • Sounds of Skyrim - Civilisation, Dungeons, Wilds (I'm getting this one for sure!)
  • Skyrim Sound Probation Overhaul (not sure if compatible with Sound of Skyrim)
  • Fantasy Music Overhaul (not sure if compatible with Sound of Skyrim)
  • True Medieval Tavern Music (not sure if compatible with Sound of Skyrim)
  • Clanking Armor
  • Any other mod that adds atmospheric sounds

NPCs

  • Skyrim Immersive Creatures (if possible in my already large load order)
  • Any other mod that adds NPCs which add more immersion (any recommendations?)

Misc.

  • SkyTweak
  • The Dance of Death
  • Civil War Overhaul
  • Diseased
  • Auto Unequip Arrows
  • Wearable Lanterns
  • Drinking Fountains of Skyrim
  • Anything else that brings new content, makes it even more challenging
  • Any mod that could possible add more immersion
  • A mod that makes the game font more stylish


I will make more compatibility patches if necessary.

Overall, I'm looking for a very immersive, difficult and challenging setup. (difficulty compared to Dark Souls or even harder) I also prefer it to be very atmospheric. Very dark, cold and dangerous, in which you shouldn't been travelling at night.

Also the economy shouldn't be easy to get into (I'm hesitating between Economics of Skyrim and Skyrim Medieval Economy).
At the beginning of the game you shouldn't be able to buy everything you want yet.

I also want there to be a lot of high level content and difficulty (no easy lvl caps).

I used to have SkyRe as well, but it was such a hassle with the ReProccer patches that I have given up on it.It doesn't seem compatible either with Mighty Magick Skyrim, ERSO and High Level Enemies, mods I really enjoy using. Also, it made me game a bit unstable. Same goes for ASIS.
I rather get some alternatives, if I haven't got them already.

I'm going to use the full STEP guide to make sure my game will be as stable as it can get.

 

Is it possible to copypaste my Mod Organizer folder to my new PC?

Advice/suggestions about the following are always welcome:

  • Recommended additional mods that add immersion or challenge
  • Available compatibility patches
  • Load order
  • General stability
  • System tweaks
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I'd avoid using Sounds of Skyrim if I were you. It's rumored to wreak havoc on save games. I'm currently using the sound propagation overhaul mod, but unfortunately, the author of that mod's made the file hidden from the public for the time being.

 

With your new PC specs, definitely go for an ENB. Probably the best looking ENB out there, imo, is the Unreal Cinema ENB. Though it's a bit too dark at times, especially in interiors. Still, it looks really nice.

 

And here's the space where I was planning to include screenshots of aforementioned ENB, but apparently "that image extension is not allowed". Guess the nexus doesn't approve of .jpgs. Anyway, if you'd like to see 'em, I just uploaded them to my account, so they're there for the viewing.

 

It's all a matter of preference, though. I'm pretty indecisive when it comes to ENBs so I cycle through 'em a lot. And if you plan on using Climates of Tamriel, make sure you have a compatible ENB, like Project ENB (which comes with tons of presets to choose from) or RealVision.

 

Mods that add NPCs for immersion --

 

Interesting NPCs

Inconsequential NPCs

 

Other mods of interest --

 

Varied Guards and Stormcloaks

The Joy of Perspective (Adds a skeleton for first person so the character can look down and see themselves -- it's pretty cool, though it's a bit buggy and many of the first person animations suffer as a result)

Fhaarkas Font Mod

 

There's a ton more out there, but for the most part, I'm blanking right now.

 

If you don't mind spending a bit more time in the process of getting it to work, look into Skyproc Patcher mods, such as Everybody's Different, which allows you to set up folders containing different skin textures which can be randomly allocated to NPCs. Automatic Variants is pretty cool, too. One concept I really like is that of the Realistic Body System mod, which gives NPCs random body shapes. From what I've seen, though, I don't like the execution, and as far as I know, it's for females only. Not sure.

 

Anyway, yeah, hope that gives you some ideas.

 

Edit - Forgot to mention, SMCO is great for if you plan on downloading lots of HD retextures. It's an automated tool that reduces texture size without any truly noticeable decrease in quality. Rogue Script Remover is also quite useful, though I'm not sure if it's been made redundant with the newest release of SKSE.

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