Midas Magic "Havok Avalanche" - Tes5Edit is showing some erro

[Jirihood]

Hello,

I have some problems with Skyrim. It keeps on crashing after a few minutes. I have checked all the plugins via BOSS and WRYE and it says that everything is OK. But when I checked it via Tes5Edit, it is showing me some error with Midas magic.

[MidasSkyrim.esp] Building reference info.

[01:01] Background Loader: Error: record EXPL contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord VMAD 44414D56

[01:01] Background Loader: Errors were found in: MidasEXHavokAvalanche "Havok Avalanche" [EXPL:36A50000]

[01:01] Background Loader: Contained subrecords: EDID VMAD OBND FULL MODL MODT DATA


EDIT:
I have checked the MidasSkyrim.esm for some errors. There´ s a report.

 

Checking for Errors in [02] MidasSkyrim.esp

[00:00] Error: record EXPL contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord VMAD 44414D56

[00:00] Errors were found in: MidasEXHavokAvalanche "Havok Avalanche" [EXPL:02A50000]

[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID VMAD OBND FULL MODL MODT DATA

[00:00] Error: record EXPL contains unexpected (or out of order) subrecord VMAD 44414D56

[00:00] Errors were found in: MidasEXHavokAvalanche "Havok Avalanche" [EXPL:02A50000]

[00:00] Contained subrecords: EDID VMAD OBND FULL MODL MODT DATA

[00:00] FormID -> [02B50004] <Error: Could not be resolved>

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object v2

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object Union

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Value

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Property

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Properties

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Script

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Scripts

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Data

[00:00] Above errors were found in :VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter

[00:00] Above errors were found in :MidasMGShiftGiant "Midas Shapeshift Giant" [MGEF:0200342B]

[00:00] FormID -> [02B50004] <Error: Could not be resolved>

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object v2

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object Union

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Value

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Property

[00:00] FormID -> [02B50004] <Error: Could not be resolved>

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object v2

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object Union

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Value

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Property

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Properties

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Script

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Scripts

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Data

[00:00] Above errors were found in :VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter

[00:00] Above errors were found in :MidasMGShiftWolf "Midas Shapeshift Wolf" [MGEF:02A10038]

[00:00] FormID -> [02BC0001] <Error: Could not be resolved>

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object v2

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Object Union

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Value

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Property

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Properties

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Script

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Scripts

[00:00] Above errors were found in :Data

[00:00] Above errors were found in :VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter

[00:00] Above errors were found in :MidasMGCureDisease "Midas Cure Disease" [MGEF:02A10003]

[00:00] Above errors were found in :GRUP Top "MGEF"

[00:00] Above errors were found in :[02] MidasSkyrim.esp

Please, do you know what I have to do with it ? (Sorry for my bad english.)

PS: Full report attached.

Edited July 3, 2013 by Jirihood

[Sharlikran]

You can ignore it the mod will still work. That mod has not been updated and i have not learned how to correct it myself yet.

[Jirihood]

Ok thanks but there is a problems with crashing .. sometimes it just crash with no reason, and I dont know why.

[Sharlikran]

Are you using version 1.9.32.0.8 of Skyrim, BOSS 2.1.1, and Wry Bash 304? All I can tell you is that you can ignore that. Uninstalling that mod probably won't fix your crash. Did you uninstall it? Did you try the patch that BOSS Suggests? Did you try the game with the Official Bethesda files and only Midas Magic? More than likely, just like everyone else, you need to disable or uninstall mods one by one until you find the crash.

 

Start with any plugin not created with the official CK. That means all files made with SkyProc patchers like ReProccer. Then uninstall the mods that belong to them like SkyRe. Then continue from there if that's not what's causing it.

[Jirihood]

Again, thanks for reply :wink:
Yep, Iam using all that versions. I did not uninstall the mod and yes, I used that compatibility patch. So you are saying that I should make a new game just with the original Bethesda files and only Midas Magic ? .. Cause I have a lot of mods, and I dont have crashes just like every 2mins but I get them in different time spans and it would took really lot of time to try it one by one..

And... I dont even know about that ReProccer or SkyRe.. :biggrin: Is it something important ?

EDIT:

So now, I enabled papyrus and thats what he is saying:

warning: Property DKnockDownEnabled on script nDragonActorScript attached to (0008BC83) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[07/03/2013 - 11:18:54PM] warning: Property xDragonBiteStagger on script nDragonActorScript attached to (0008BC83) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[07/03/2013 - 11:22:17PM] VM is freezing...

[07/03/2013 - 11:22:17PM] VM is frozen

[07/03/2013 - 11:22:18PM] Saving game...

[07/03/2013 - 11:22:18PM] VM is thawing...

(Full report included..)
So now I know that does some old (unused) script. Dont you know please what mod have this one ? Do I have to disable (or enable) the mod ? Or something different ?

Edited July 3, 2013 by Jirihood

[Sharlikran]

So you are saying that I should make a new game just with the original Bethesda files and only Midas Magic ?

As a troubleshooting step to see if you still crash yes. It's as simple as just disabling all the mods you don't have to uninstall them. Then if you have no crash now you know it has nothing to do with Midas Magic or the out of order subrecord. Then you can look elsewhere in your load order for possible causes.

 

.. Cause I have a lot of mods, and I dont have crashes just like every 2mins but I get them in different time spans and it would took really lot of time to try it one by one..

That is why you do them in blocks. Maybe disable 5 or 10 at a time.

 

And... I dont even know about that ReProccer or SkyRe.. :biggrin: Is it something important ?

No but it's a popular mod and it uses a SkyProc patcher to generate a plugin. Which is malformed and therefor bound to cause an issue.

 

So now, I enabled papyrus and thats what he is saying:

 

warning: Property DKnockDownEnabled on script nDragonActorScript attached to (0008BC83) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[07/03/2013 - 11:18:54PM] warning: Property xDragonBiteStagger on script nDragonActorScript attached to (0008BC83) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

If that is truly within Skyrim then ignore it. However if you load all your mods into TES5Edit I'd search for that FormID. If it does not exist in Skyrim.esm which is always 00, then you have a mod made with Snip that has a bad FromID that should be removed or fixed.

 

So now I know that does some old (unused) script. Dont you know please what mod have this one ? Do I have to disable (or enable) the mod ? Or something different ?

Sorry that's gonna take time you will have to figure it out. There is no magic suggestion I can make to find a needle in a haystack, except loading all your mods into TES5Edit and searching for that FormID.

[Sharlikran]

I can tell you already "nDragonExtraControllerScript" is not a stock script. Just the first page tells me you have tons of missing scripts. I don't know enough about that log. So I will guess this... Say you have a mod that has a BSA file, I'm sure you know what they are. If not let me know. Now, say you use BSAOpt to track it down and it's in a BSA file. I'd extract all the files from the BSA file, copy them where they go, and run skyrim. See if some of those errors go away. However, I have lots of BSA files with scripts and I only have a few missing scripts. So it's my feeling that the Papyrus logs can find the scripts in the BSA files and should not error like that.

 

How do you know what mod to look for? Easy. Load all your mods into TES5Edit. After it loads you just look at the list. The prefix will match. (2900590E) Will be plugin [29] or your 41st plugin. Open the skyrim launcher while TES5Edit is open and look for it. Disable it. While TES5Edit is open along with the Skyrim Launcher, get everything disabled that has a script error like that with the exception of the Bethesda masters.

 

Then post the list of mods you had to disable. Be through, careful and diligent please. I'd like the list to be accurate. Once you disable a mod, if you make a new papyrus log you have to close and reopen TES5Edit because now the log will have different prefixes. So do it all at once.

Edited July 4, 2013 by Sharlikran

[Jirihood]

As a troubleshooting step to see if you still crash yes. It's as simple as just disabling all the mods you don't have to uninstall them. Then if you have no crash now you know it has nothing to do with Midas Magic or the out of order subrecord. Then you can look elsewhere in your load order for possible causes

 

Ok, so I will try it that way. My load order is OK. (I checked it already many times :wink: )

 

I only know that BSA is some Bethesda Softworks Archive files. They have all the animations, models, sounds / voices and textures...

I´am not sure if what I will have to do, because i dont know that BsAOpt porgram.

Sorry for that, but I will be about 10 days (ore more) out and I would not be connected to internet ..

I will continue with this as soon as possible!

 

Thanks you for all your patience and help!

 

Edited July 14, 2013 by Jirihood

[Jirihood]

So Iam back :smile: Could you please tell me what I have to do again ?



So I think that problem is solved. I turned off the UFO (Ultimate follower overhaul) , than cleaned again with TesVedit and re-downloaded compatibility patches. Game didnt crash for more than 2hours of playing :smile: Thanks for assistance...

Edited July 14, 2013 by Jirihood