Jhans Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) So my Skyrim stops responding a lot, usually when im leaving an area or sometimes when im looting. any idea what is causing it? it shouldnt be due to the specs of my PC, its on the higher end My load order is as follows: Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}ApachiiHair.esm ActiveArmedttTeeth.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm Activemoonpath.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveMoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp ActiveIncompatible with: All lighting mods.ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp ActiverealrainCoT.esp ActiveSupreme Storms - Cot Version.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveBring Out Your Dead.esp ActiveCatsofskyrim.esp ActiveDogsofskyrim.esp Activeinvulnerableuniquehorses.esp ActiveRealShelter.esp ActiveReal Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}SIS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espConvenient Horses.esp ActiveConvenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp ActiveConvenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp ActiveCharacter Creation Overhaul.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}WayoftheVoice.esp Activemm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedVampireRace.esp ActiveMM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp Activemm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedDialogueFixes.esp Activemm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedLootTables.esp Activemm_BeluaSanguinareRevisitedRefuge.esp ActiveERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 01 esp.ERSO 02 - EFMS very bigger giant mammoths.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 02 esp.ERSO 03 - Mighty Dragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x2.5.esp ActiveERSO 07 - Mighty Dragon Priests.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 07 esp.ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected USKP.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 09 esp.ERSO 09.2 - Radiance.esp ActiveERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp ActiveERSO 10.02 - Adventurers and Travelers.esp ActiveERSO 11 - RUS-(SIM)-Assassins and Thieves.esp ActiveERSO 12 - RUS-(SIM)-Werewolves.esp ActiveERSO 13.03 - Higher Skill Cap 200.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 13.03 esp.ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp ActiveERSO 14.02 - Harder barter 6-4.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.02 esp.ERSO 14.03 - Vendor Soul Gems Only Empty And Very Rare.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.03 esp.ERSO 14.04 - Vendor Animal Parts Less Common.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.04 esp.ERSO 14.06 - Vendor Minor Enchanted Weapons Armors Very Rare.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.06 esp.ERSO 14.07 - Vendor Less Weapons Armors.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.07 esp.ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 10 days.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 14.08 esp.ERSO 16 - Realistic Crime Alert Distances - SHORT.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 16 esp.ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 18 esp.ERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.esp ActiveERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.esp ActiveERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.esp ActiveERSO 22 - Better Necromancy Spells.esp ActiveERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.esp ActiveERSO 27 - Better Archery Stuff.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 27 esp.ERSO 28 - Killmoves F.esp ActiveNote: Use only one ERSO 28 esp.ERSO 29 - DPMO.esp ActiveArmorDisguises.esp ActiveHunting in Skyrim.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp ActiveLife In Prison.esp Activemoonpath_questdata.esp Activequest_pitfighter.esp Activequest_pitfighter_dlc01.espError: Dawnguard.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without Dawnguard (Official Bethesda DLC)CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Faster Woodland Creatures v1.2.esp Activegetdrunk.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Activeadoarena.esp ActiveHelgen Reborn.esp ActiveOpen Cities Skyrim.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp ActiveDiseased.esp ActiveBrevi_MoonlightTales.esp ActiveShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp ActiveCharacter_Generation.esp ActiveSneak Tools.esp ActiveSneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp ActiveSneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active3DNPC.esp Activemarriagemod - alpha v3.esp ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActiveCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Activeunrecognised Supreme Fog - CoT.esp Activetaminganimals.esp ActiveCivil War Overhaul.esp ActiveERSO 10.03 - Immersive Battles.esp ActiveERSO 10.04 - Immersive Brigands.esp ActiveERSO 10.05 - Immersive Patrols.esp ActiveERSO 10.06 - Immersive Werewolves.esp ActiveERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI redux.esp ActiveERSO 30.1 - Better Expert Level.esp ActiveERSO 31 - Unlimited Followers.esp Active Edited July 10, 2013 by Jhans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) The official HD DLC can make your game crash, if you don't have a high-end PC. (and sometimes even with a high-end PC) When it crashes for people, it's usually after 2-3 hours of playing though. You have a lot of large mods, so it could easily be something else. What are your PC specs? I especially need to know the video card, operating system, and RAM. Edited July 10, 2013 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages), including the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they won't clutter the screen. Edited July 10, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhans Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 Replace your load order with a BOSS log (with the messages), including the list of plugins not recognized by BOSS if one is generated. Enclose them in spoiler tags so they won't clutter the screen.done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 1) looks like you missed one or two plugins that still need to be cleaned, so use TES5Edit to clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits.' Remember that you'll need to remove identical to master entries as well as undelete/disable deleted references. 2) There looks to be a couple of error messages in the BOSS log that you need to address: Duel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveNote: Obsolete. Update to latest version.Need to update to the latest version, which has a different plugin name. guest_pitfighter_dlc01.espError: Dawnguard.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without Dawnguard (Official Bethesda DLC) Even though this plugin is inactive, you should just delete it since you apparently do not have the DG DLC. Inactive plugins don't get loaded but they do get scanned, and there is no reasons to extend your game loading time by even a millisecond.- Inconsequential NPCs it not compatible with Open Cities. It won't cause any CTDs or anything, but you won't see a few InconNPCs (e.g. the urchins) and it will break the AI packages of InconNPCs who rely on custom markers placed in the city spaces (e.g. the town crier), just so you know. I don't think the above suggestions will resolve your random worldspace CTDs, but they are just part of 'load order maintenance' to help optimize your mod set up. - have you edited the default game ini files?- are you using any mods that do not come with plugins, like body or texture replacers?- what is your system specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhans Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) ive cleaned all my files, but for some reason that one keeps saying it isnt cleaned, for duel it says that its outdated, but i have 7.1 which is the newest. the only mod i have that doesnt have a plugin is Calinetes Female body mod. and i havent edited the ini Specsi5-2500k (3.3 GHz)8gb RAMraedon 6950 2GB Edited July 10, 2013 by Jhans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp Active Contains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here Like I said, remember that you will need to remove identical to master entries -as well as- undelete/disable deleted references (because deleted references can cause CTDs if referenced by mods loaded later in the load order). I don't use DUEL but I presume that BOSS is able to tell that you do not have the latest version because the plugin for the latest version is named differently from the one in your load order. You didn't answer my question about ini tweaks and edits. Also, how frequent are you CTDs? Any discernible patterns to them at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhans Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I havent tweaked the ini (i dont think) the CTDs occured a lot around White Run, but i disabled riverhelm and that seemed to fix it there, but they seem to happen at random while leaving areas and looting for the first time. one example: i was trying to loot a giant and crashes, so i reloaded and looted him again and it worked fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Well, just in case, delete your current ini files and let the game generate new ones one next launch. So, how often are the CTDs? If you only experienced the looting CTD once, you can probably overlook it. If this is a serious and recurrent issue than we will have to go to your papyrus log and see if anything shows up there. Edited July 10, 2013 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rennn Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Well, your memory is fine. Is your operating system 32 bit or 64 bit? For whatever reason, Skyrim seems to be crashy on 32 bit Operating Systems.I also recommend (as ripple did) that you delete the .ini files from Documents/My Games/Skyrim/ and let it generate new ones next time you play. Unless you've tweaked them heavily, you won't lose anything from that. Edited July 10, 2013 by Rennn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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