Illushia Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) I've been working on my Skyrim for about a week now trying to get it to work and at this point I'm just sort of at my wit's end with it. It worked fine before, but I haven't picked up the game in maybe a year or so. I added some mods to the ones I already had(Which worked fine), and now I can't even get the game to start most of the time. I just got a new computer(But haven't managed to install my graphics card into it yet) with a better processor and more/faster RAM than I had before, so I don't know that it's a hardware issue causing the problems I'm having. Comp: Win 8Intel® Core i5-3330 CPU @ 3.00GHz12.0 Ram (11.9 usable) DDR3(Or whatever the designation is)64bit OS, x64 based processor Mod List: (Using the BOSS list because everything is in my load order the way it is in BOSS, and you can see which are active and which aren't) Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveFM - HaafingarHall.esm ActiveWarning: UNP Clothing Merchants contains too many clothing mods for BOSS to check individually. Read the readme for details. Leaving the other mods installed is not recommended.Omegared99-Compilation.esm ActivephiNoFF.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim.esm ActiveNPCEssential - Miners.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Caravan Traders.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Vendors.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Stable Masters.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Priests.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Lumberjacks.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Farmers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Carriage Drivers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Citizens.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Horses.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Trainers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Followers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}uskp_addon.esp ActiveRaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp ActiveMoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp ActiveIncompatible with: All lighting mods.Better Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveThundering Shouts.esp ActiveRemoveAmbientInteriorFog.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Activemintylightningmod.esp ActiveVidani's Bag of Holding.esp ActiveTradeBarter.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Auto Unequip Helmet.esp ActiveBellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp Activebladesfactionfix.esp ActiveBLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp ActiveDFB - Random Encounters.esp ActiveDivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp ActiveExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp ActivefFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Activegenpeople.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Improved Container Names.esp ActiveJK Crafting Breakdown.esp ActiveLong lost smelters by Hyralux.esp ActiveUnlimitedBookshelves.esp ActiveLost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Activemoredragonloot.esp ActiveNPC Bartering.esp ActivePeople Have Torches.esp ActivePerk Books.esp ActiveTraining Dummies XP.esp ActiveTraining Dummies XP Dawnguard.esp ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp Activeuseablesawmill.esp ActiveAdventurersAndTravelers.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveAutomaticItemStorage.esp ActiveCharacter Creation Overhaul.esp ActiveChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espDragon Soul Relinquishment.espRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveActualize Apparel.esp Activecalyps-animal-ears.esp ActiveGlass Variants.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}isilNarsil.esp ActiveLeftHandRings.esp ActiveLeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp ActiveLostLongSwords.esp ActiveNorthborn Fur Hoods.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp Activeprivate_singular_quivers.esp ActivePrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SilverDragonArmor.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp ActiveUniqueBows.esp ActiveWVExpansion.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}IA6npc01.esp ActiveSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp ActiveERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI.esp ActiveBards Questing in Tombs.esp ActiveBetterJorrvaskr.esp ActiveCornerofTheSkyrim.esp ActiveFM - HHall Exterior.esp ActiveFM - UNP Merchants.esp ActiveWarning: UNP Clothing Merchants contains too many clothing mods for BOSS to check individually. Read the readme for details. Leaving the other mods installed is not recommended.Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveSincar Barrens.esp ActiveSpouseStoreMod.esp ActiveSyerscote.esp ActiveWallofhonor.esp ActivewhiterunMarket.esp ActiveWyrmstooth.espZKG.espSkyrimCoinReplacer.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}SkyrimWeightImprovement.esp ActiveNote: Use Dawnguard version if you want Dawnguard items to be adjusted by this mod.Note: Use Dawnguard and Hearthfires version if you want Dawnguard and Hearthfires items to be adjusted by this mod.Morrowloot_nwah.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp ActiveAppropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp ActiveArtifactOverhaul.esp ActiveBetter Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp ActiveBlockSparkles.esp ActiveBounty Gold.esp ActiveCCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp ActiveCCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 24 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp ActiveESFCompanions.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveIncreased Arrow Damage.espProper Aiming.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActivedD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp ActiveStickier_Arrows V2.esp ActiveTanningSmeltingExp.esp ActiveThieves Guild Requirements.espUnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveUpgraded Weapons and Armors.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveBlacksmith Chests.esp ActiveCM Merchants.esp ActivePopulated Cities 2.esp ActiveHitStop.esp ActiveDragonFire.esp ActiveShoutCD.esp ActiveAlchemyOrganization.esp ActiveEnchanting Freedom.esp ActiveShenkThieveryOverhaul.esp ActiveACE Realistic Fighting.espDeadlyCombat.esp ActiveDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp ActiveDeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp ActiveLocational Damage.esp ActiveTKcombat.esp ActiveACE BYOG.espACE Speech.espCCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp ActiveACE Archery.espACE Armor.espACE Enchanting.espACE Magic.espACE Melee.espACE Smithing.espACE Synergy.espABT - Loot Arrows +25%.espABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp ActiveABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.espABT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp ActiveABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp ActiveABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.espDual Flurry for all.espSneak Tools.espSneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.espSneak Tools Vanilla Masks.espApachiiHairStyles.esp ActiveApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp ActiveLunariRace.esp ActiveZazimelDrow.esp ActiveFollower Trap Safety.esp ActiveCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp ActiveAnimated Weapon Enchants.esp ActivegetSnowy.espBarenziahQuestMarkers.espMinesOfSkyrim.espUnmarked Places - Player Homes.espUnmarked Places - Dragon Mounds.espUnmarked Places - Shrines.espUnique Region Names.espBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp ActiveI've cleaned everything(except the first few files because I verified cache to see if that would fix it) with TES5Edit, and I have a bashed patch for all the leveled lists and a few mods. The mods that are active are the most that would work, but the game will CTD with more than that loaded, and with that many loaded it infinitely hangs on loading screen. I can start up a game just fine with those mods loaded, do the cart ride, continue on and out of Helgen, but any time I have to reload from a save for any reason, the game hangs and I have to shut it down. I've got all my graphic settings on low because I haven't been able to install my graphics card yet, but it runs fine. It just CTDs if any other mods are loaded, and hangs infinitely on loading screens otherwise. If anyone can offer any help I'd really appreciate it. Edited July 13, 2013 by Illushia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Any help at all would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prod80 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I think you push the engine too high by the way you describe your problem... game running fine, then not opening the old save... you probably also be greeted by infinite loadscreens while you go from interior to exterior world and your crashes generally happen while running around outside. download Skyrim Performance Monitor, and run it (configure to launch with SKSE) and see what it shows you. Perhaps a thread like this can explain you a bit about texture packs, game limits, and the issues you might be having...From post 4: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1028545-help-required-assistance-appreciated/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I've heavily reduced my mod count, down from 255(with a bashed patch to merge them) to 117. I'll get that program and run it and see what happens after I get the load order fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 This is the list as it stands right now, with only the things I -really- want loaded. If I have to remove any of these(Other than ones that just don't work at all) I'm gonna be sad. =( I know some of them need TES5Edit cleaning and I'm working on them right now. :3 SKSE Mods: SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16CFM_extensions.dllDCF_plugin.dllnioverride.dllshowRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dllSKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.1.1TKHitStop.dll Normal mods:Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveETaC - RESOURCES.esm ActiveFM - HaafingarHall.esm ActiveWarning: UNP Clothing Merchants contains too many clothing mods for BOSS to check individually. Read the readme for details. Leaving the other mods installed is not recommended.Omegared99-Compilation.esm ActivephiNoFF.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim.esm ActiveNPCEssential - Priests.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Lumberjacks.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Horses.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Farmers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Caravan Traders.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Miners.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Followers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Carriage Drivers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Vendors.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Stable Masters.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Trainers.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.NPCEssential - Citizens.esp ActiveNote: Need to load before all mods that change NPCs. This mod is sets Essential flag for NPCs but with other vanilla stats.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}uskp_addon.esp ActiveRaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp ActiveClanking Armor.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp ActiveSkyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp ActiveVidani's Bag of Holding.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Helmet.esp ActiveBellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp ActiveCart in Each Big Town.esp ActiveDFB - Random Encounters.esp Activegenpeople.esp ActiveHigh Level Enemies.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}JK Crafting Breakdown.esp ActiveLong lost smelters by Hyralux.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 12 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp Activemoredragonloot.esp ActiveReal Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Contains dirty edits: 346 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp ActiveAdventurersAndTravelers.esp ActiveChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.SkyUI.esp ActiveActualize Apparel.esp Activecalyps-animal-ears.esp ActiveGlass Variants.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}isilNarsil.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.LeftHandRings.esp ActiveLeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp ActiveLostLongSwords.esp ActiveOmegared99-WeaponSets.esp ActivePrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}SilverDragonArmor.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp ActiveWVExpansion.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}IA6npc01.esp ActiveSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp ActiveBetterJorrvaskr.esp ActiveCornerofTheSkyrim.esp ActiveRIC_Dawnstar.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.FM - HHall Exterior.esp ActiveFM - UNP Merchants.esp ActiveWarning: UNP Clothing Merchants contains too many clothing mods for BOSS to check individually. Read the readme for details. Leaving the other mods installed is not recommended.Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveSincar Barrens.esp ActiveSyerscote.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 23 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.whiterunMarket.esp ActiveBounty Gold.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveSkyrimMoreSpawns.esp ActivedD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp ActiveTanningSmeltingExp.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveETaC - Villages Complete.esp ActiveETaC - Morthal.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 31 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ETaC Follower Add-On.esp ActivePopulated Cities 2.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 59 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.HitStop.esp ActiveEnchanting Freedom.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ACE Realistic Fighting.esp ActiveDragonCombatOverhaul.esp ActiveLocational Damage.esp ActiveACE BYOG.esp ActiveACE Speech.esp ActiveACE Archery.esp ActiveACE Armor.esp ActiveACE Enchanting.esp ActiveACE Magic.esp ActiveACE Melee.esp ActiveACE Smithing.esp ActiveACE Synergy.esp ActiveApachiiHairStyles.esp ActiveApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp ActiveLunariRace.esp ActiveReduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp ActiveFollower Trap Safety.esp ActiveUnmarked Places - Player Homes.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp Active Unrecognized:ThalmorPartyIsParty.esp ActiveTimingIsEverything.esp ActiveMoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp ActiveShiverTwitch's Labeled Mines.esp Active Does anything there immediately jump out as incompatable or broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I cannot get Skyrim Performance Monitor to open once it downloads, so I don't think I'll be able to use that to try to figure out what's going wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 If it helps, this is what happens when I start the game: It goes to loading screen, dialogue box for the Vigris Bag of Holding comes up. If left alone the game will finish loading and start the veeeeeery first bit of the intro, but pauses, because the dialogue box for the bag of holding is still up. If you click okay, it will run for another moment, play the very first horse/cart noises you hear in the intro, and then crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I finally got the performance monitor to work. Maximum 718mb ram, 18mb vram. 389mb disk i/o, 51% cpu, 32 threads and60 fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prod80 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I don't think you got it working properly... Did you actually play a game or did skyrim just start and returned to desktop? 718mb ram and 18mb vram is ridiculously low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illushia Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I started Skyrim. It played for a few seconds. It crashed. As an update I've -finally- got it working. All told the Vram and Ram add up to less than 1k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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