KMA Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I requested fallout.ini files at the end of another thread a few weeks ago, but have not gota single one. I am posting this in its own thread so that people will notice it again. I want to analyze these supposed stable versions for commonalities. For this I need two pieces of information so that I can categorize the fallout.ini variables properly. I need to know if you are on XP or Vista (32 / 64) and how much RAM you have. The video card does not matter since it runs stably on your system. With a dozen or so I will be able to find out what makes the game run stably and share it witheveryone. Just for the record I have installed the game five times, over two separate versionsof Vista x64. I am running a 3.5GB Dual Core, with 4GB of Excellent RAM, and a 4870 Radeon.I should be able to run this thing flawlessly, but if I can get more than 20 minutes without a crash,I am lucky. I am using the Unofficial Patch, and have tried both an unmodified fallout.ini which wasvery unstable, and many modified versions (all my own editing). The latest is not bad, and mostcrashes are due to area transitions (clicking on doors to move to a new area). I had to move backto the previous .0.15 patch since 1.1.?35 is defective and corrupted my save games three times in a row (five saved games each before they became so buggy that saving would crash the game). I went back to saves from before the patch and just saved over and over, standing in the same spot,until they became corrupt. Then I would load a saved game from farther back and repeat. After returning to the previous patch, I loaded the latest good save, and have been playing for 30+ hourswithout a single save game corruption. I suspect that this is a X64 issue, but with the mouse acceleration bug, I know that B$ did not test it at all. I am just trying to do what B$ should have done a long time ago, and figure out what makes the game stable on the average system. A half hour of gameplay per crash is not stable, and yet someof us would be happy with that average. Please help me out and PM me for my email address. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yossarian22 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I requested fallout.ini files at the end of another thread a few weeks ago, but have not gota single one. I am posting this in its own thread so that people will notice it again. I want to analyze these supposed stable versions for commonalities. For this I need two pieces of information so that I can categorize the fallout.ini variables properly. I need to know if you are on XP or Vista (32 / 64) and how much RAM you have. The video card does not matter since it runs stably on your system. With a dozen or so I will be able to find out what makes the game run stably and share it witheveryone. Just for the record I have installed the game five times, over two separate versionsof Vista x64. I am running a 3.5GB Dual Core, with 4GB of Excellent RAM, and a 4870 Radeon.I should be able to run this thing flawlessly, but if I can get more than 20 minutes without a crash,I am lucky. I am using the Unofficial Patch, and have tried both an unmodified fallout.ini which wasvery unstable, and many modified versions (all my own editing). The latest is not bad, and mostcrashes are due to area transitions (clicking on doors to move to a new area). I had to move backto the previous .0.15 patch since 1.1.?35 is defective and corrupted my save games three times in a row (five saved games each before they became so buggy that saving would crash the game). I went back to saves from before the patch and just saved over and over, standing in the same spot,until they became corrupt. Then I would load a saved game from farther back and repeat. After returning to the previous patch, I loaded the latest good save, and have been playing for 30+ hourswithout a single save game corruption. I suspect that this is a X64 issue, but with the mouse acceleration bug, I know that B$ did not test it at all. I am just trying to do what B$ should have done a long time ago, and figure out what makes the game stable on the average system. A half hour of gameplay per crash is not stable, and yet someof us would be happy with that average. Please help me out and PM me for my email address. Cheers! Have nearly same system as you, but vista32 and never noticed much problems. I am using one of the recommend inis, that is available in the download section, but dont remember where. But anyway, somebody who runs vista64 shouldn't wonder why a game dont work. If you want play games, never install vista64, simple as that. vista64 is mostly needed for nothing but a few things, that most people never use. Well... it can handle more than 3 gb ram... thats great :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMA Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Have nearly same system as you, but vista32 and never noticed much problems. I am using one of the recommend inis, that is available in the download section, but dont remember where. But anyway, somebody who runs vista64 shouldn't wonder why a game dont work. If you want play games, never install vista64, simple as that. vista64 is mostly needed for nothing but a few things, that most people never use. Well... it can handle more than 3 gb ram... thats great :wallbash: Vista 64 runs most things in 32 bit mode so your comments are misguided. Since you say that yours works, will you send it to me? That is the point of this thread. P.S. I am about to upgrade to 8 GB of ram for using Photoshop CS4 64 bit, so it is necessary. It is very stable once you disable a few of the background processes. I also like DX10 so XP is not an option (unless someone manages a hack for that). ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unperfek7 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Have nearly same system as you, but vista32 and never noticed much problems. I am using one of the recommend inis, that is available in the download section, but dont remember where. But anyway, somebody who runs vista64 shouldn't wonder why a game dont work. If you want play games, never install vista64, simple as that. vista64 is mostly needed for nothing but a few things, that most people never use. Well... it can handle more than 3 gb ram... thats great :wallbash: Vista 64 runs most things in 32 bit mode so your comments are misguided. Since you say that yours works, will you send it to me? That is the point of this thread. P.S. I am about to upgrade to 8 GB of ram for using Photoshop CS4 64 bit, so it is necessary. It is very stable once you disable a few of the background processes. I also like DX10 so XP is not an option (unless someone manages a hack for that). ;) http://www.techmixer.com/download-directx-10-for-windows-xp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMA Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 Thanks but I want to run it with the hardware (Radeon 4870) that I spent so much on. Running DX10 in software mode would mean a big hit to performance. At least it is a the first step, though by the time they get it out of Alpha, the next OS from M$ will be available to me in Beta. So far only one person has lived up to the claims of a stable game and sent me the file. It only takes a few seconds,and contains no personal information about you. Help me, help everyone (since most of us have constant CTDs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onij Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I was running xp 32 and having game crashes every 3-5 minutes until I edited the ini file with help from the fallout tweak guide at www.tweakguide.com Then it was only crashing every 5-15 minutes lol. I was super frustrated and decided to upgrade to xp64 and ave since had almost 0 problems. I can send you my edited and unedited ini for xp 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VengfulSoldier Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 My game rarely crashes unless I'm really pushing my laptop to the limits. I mean you touch the underside and you could serve your hand up as a ham for breakfast. I don't have it on ultra high, just what the game predetermined the limits of my hardware.I don't get any problems, even with the patched version. I don't know whether the fact I purchased it on Steam makes a difference or not. My fallout ini is completely unmodified other than the patches. The rest is just .esp files I downloaded the modified the gameplay and such using the original. It might be the fact that because you MODIFIED the core file, you screwed up the programming. That or you installed it in such a way that it could not find the files needed to run. That's why you always do the custom option to be able to find the file easily. XPS M1530Gaming laptopVista 32 bit2.00 GB of RAMNvidia 8600 GTSteam Download(No CD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMA Posted March 5, 2009 Author Share Posted March 5, 2009 Sorry for the delay, I have had my head stuck in a project and just came up for air. @Onij - I PMed you. Thanks! @ VengfulSoldier - I have not modifed the core file (Fallout.exe) and I did not even alter the BSA files for the first three installs. Unfortunately it is much too early to point to anything as being a factor, but more people running XP claim tohave a stable game than those running Vista. Your version from Steam should not have different .ini values, but I will PM you with my email address just in case. In case I was not clear earlier (my brain sometimes tries to be a dual-core), my game will run. I have even managed to complete the game, but I had to ignore most of the side quests and just blaze through the main quest after Ravenrock (the introduction of Enclave to the Wasteland made it 4X worse). I have enough experience with the game to know that there are major problem with memory management, as I monitor my 4GB of OCZ Reaper (tried it with 4GB of Crucial memory with absolutely no change in CTD behavior) 8500 memory. There is no way the game should try and use more than that, but it just keeps filling it up and never clearing it out. When the system hits 4GB I get a CTD, and even clearing the cell buffer does not help (in game console command 'ctb'). I have tried unaltered .ini files, pre-edited versions, and using tweak guides I have edited a great deal with minor effect. I installed to the standard Vista directory for four of the installs, and to my root directory for this last install. It always acts the same, runs fine, but just eats all the RAM it can find. That is why I thought it was more stable on 6GB+ machines, or if if the texture settings were medium or lower (uses less memory). The game determined that my system is Ultra, and based on the advertised requirements, I would have to agree. I hope to find that there is a subtle edit that makes things run properly. Now, one thing I will suggest to anyone that is reading this hoping for a solution is that the Unofficial Patch has found a lot of mesh errors. These could easily eat memory as they generate internal errors, and cause CTDing. You should grab a copy and give it a try to see if it helps your system. I did not notice a large improvement, but then again, it is hard to tell when it crashes this much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michlo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Have nearly same system as you, but vista32 and never noticed much problems. I am using one of the recommend inis, that is available in the download section, but dont remember where. But anyway, somebody who runs vista64 shouldn't wonder why a game dont work. If you want play games, never install vista64, simple as that. vista64 is mostly needed for nothing but a few things, that most people never use. Well... it can handle more than 3 gb ram... thats great :wallbash: Umm, utter nonsense. The ONLY game I haven't been able to run on my Vista 64 is Aliens vs. Predator II. Everything else has been excellent. Please don't spout such proclamations as truth just because things haven't worked out on YOUR system. If this were true then Vista 64 sales would be almost non existent. I'll post my ini file next time I'm home and remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VengfulSoldier Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 No, I don't think Steam gave different values....I think it acts as an emulator of sorts because if I just installed the original Half Life from a CD, I wouldn't be able to play it, but Steam allows me too. But I will send you the .ini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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