cmaesing Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I came the other day out of the cave after the Clavicus quest - and at that moment had a butterfly stuck on me. And the damn thing just wouldn't go away! https://i.imgur.com/CyPbHIi.jpg Here is what I have tried so far: Fast travel, wait, sleep, swim through river. The butterfly remains. Leave SSE completely, restart and reload the savegame. The butterfly remains. Console command player.dispelallspells. No effect though, the butterfly remains. Console command to disable the butterfly. But when I click on it, my character's name and details appear. So am not able to disable the butterfly itself. Via console command change into vampire and back into normal form. While that DOES get rid of the butterfly once I am in vampire form (and remains gone once I change back), after some time the butterfly reappears. And I haven't been able to identify any action or script that would trigger this. My butterfly mods are (in this load order; don't have any other insect mods): 1. Butterflies Land True (has esp) 2. Rally's Butterflies Moths and Torchbugs (no esp) 3. Butterfly Improved (no esp) 4. Butterflies Unchained (has esp) So I unchecked the esp from #4 - no change, the savegame loads, and the butterfly is still there. When I uncheck the esp from #1, the game ctds as it is about to finish loading. So my guess is that has something to do with how the 1st interacts with SOME mod in my load order. That said, my setup is highly modded, based on the Northern Experience guide, but with lots of personal addons (MO2 managed, 250 ESMs and ESPs, 420 ESLs or ESL flagged ESPs). Luckily, the game is wonderfully stable so far - except for this one issue that came up now. Since the butterfly always looks the same (seems to be a Luna moth), and since it always appears on the same position in relation to my body (mid height, forward right-ish ... that's where it then flies around), I would guess (but am not sure) it's a script issue from another mod. Maybe Quick Light, maybe Bandoliers. Will check those out a bit more in detail. I should mention that I did ask about this on the Steam SSE forum yesterday @ https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/3196989419235765412 ... And while folks were able to kindly direct me towards the player.setrace command, I thought I'd ask in a different forum to see if anyone has any other idea. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal139 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 When you click on it via console try scrolling up and down with scroll wheel key, that way you can display the details of any object mesh 1 by 1 that is immediate closer to the object that will get picked first. Besides try clicking on different spots of the object if it doesn't get picked. also don't forget to scroll up or down after each click. In case you succeed to get its details in console window, i think "markfordelete" would be the best command imo to get rid of it forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 Thanks @Hannibal139 for your input. Had a brief look, but nothing came up. Will take some more time later today, and revert here if I manage to fix it for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal139 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I looked up those butterfly mods you have mentioned and i think #2 & #3 might be the problem since both of these mods use the meshes edited by some mod author that has made changes to the collision data of butterflies, making them not collide with you but rather pass through you. And if both of these mods are using the same or similar edited meshes then there is going to be a mod conflict problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 @Hannibal139 Wow, thanks for finding that out! Let me check and see if it works / resolves itself by disabling those two mods. UPDATE: Playing around with my 4 butterfly mods (disabling this or that one) didn't do the trick, unfortunately. I have identified the type of butterfly that always appears, though. So my hope is that I will now create a blank / transparent dds file, rename it so it matches the critter's name - and then technically be there, but that I simply won't see it anymore. Will keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal139 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Wait in game till its respawn time if it is dead or till skyrim resets things (presumably 30 days in game), maybe this will do the trick for you. You can fast forward time in skyrim with a console command. Or better just continue your playthrough from an earlier save where this problem didn't exist but if there is too much progress to lose i suggest you to try looking for the solution for few days atleast and meanwhile not make any serious advancements in your playthrough. Also post about your problem in concerned mod pages perhaps someone there might help you. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmaesing Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 Thanks yet again @Hannibal139. I really appreciate you taking the time on this one little issue of mine. Will give that definitely a try today! I did actually have a look at all my butterfly mod pages before starting this thread. But all of them didn't show any bugs listed (or only unrelated ones, if I remember). I'll pm the mod author of THAT texture dds file which my new butterfly friend always uses (it comes from https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/37302). Of course I could delete that dds file - in which case a standard texture is being used. With that, however, buried somewhere in one of the default Skyrim files, I find it easier to work on the file that this mod provides. Shall revert here when I know more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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