hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 On 8/30/2013 at 6:07 PM, c0c0c0 said: On 8/30/2013 at 5:28 PM, hentaishinri said: what is "Nothing in your load list sticks out as something nobody in their right mind runs" supposed to mean? that I'm not in my right mind to run those mods? Just the opposite. I didn't see anything particularly risky. There is no obvious culprit, to my eyes. On 8/30/2013 at 5:28 PM, hentaishinri said: I played 4 hours yesterday and crashed when I went into a cave....the only thing taht I've noticed is that I can't play more than 4-5 hours, but other than that it's mostly random... Hate to say it but, that isn't that bad. I'd be a mighty happy man if I only crashed once in 1-4 hours of play. And the fact that it's worse than is use to be is also pretty normal. Save files seem to accumulate "cruft" over time and become more and more unstable. Maybe someone else can see something in your load that's shifty but the problem you have described to me pretty much sounds like life in the fast lane. More mods = less stability. Oh... I see...Also, here is the most recent papyrus log:http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=82799757339378366880 this time the game crashed while I was outdoors, fighting. And I had started the game 10-15 minutes ago.Also, I added 2-3 mods (but nothing like textures or scripts, only simple mods, like the community uncapper and "Skyrim Experience"... I just wanted to try them out, but I doubt it crashed because of them).I'm really starting to get frustrated -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0c0c0 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Did you see anything in your papyrus log that might refer to something related to your CTD? For instance, look at the "Error: File" entries - Did you install then uninstall any of these? That can lead to instability. If none of the items listed as "missing" were actually missing, you are then likely looking at an out-of-memory crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 On 8/30/2013 at 9:05 PM, c0c0c0 said: Did you see anything in your papyrus log that might refer to something related to your CTD? For instance, look at the "Error: File" entries - Did you install then uninstall any of these? That can lead to instability. If none of the items listed as "missing" were actually missing, you are then likely looking at an out-of-memory crash.Well these are the "Error: File" entries I found. Quote Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.I don't know what mod this is from and no I don't have it... Quote Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.I don't have that, but I never had that. I have conventient horses but only the main ESP, never herding or anything like that.. Quote Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.I never installed that either.... like, never. Quote Error: File "MM_BeluaSangunaireRevisited.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.Apparently this is an ESP that goes along with the Predator Vision mod, but I installed that mod and I never got that ESP, I didnt even had the option to get it ...Also, after it comes to this, papyrus repeats it a few times.The next error: file is Quote Error: File "1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.I deleted this because BOSS said that I can't have the 1nivWICCloak.eso and 1niWICCloaksCRAFT/GUARDS.esp together so I deleted this one. Quote Error: File "ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.Never installed this. Quote Error: File "Wyrmstooth.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.I never installed that either. Quote Error: File "Falskaar.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.That too. Quote Error: File "Chesko_Frostfall.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.That too. Quote Error: File "getSnowy.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.Nope. That's about it, those are all.Half of these I never installed, but I think my brother has installed them on his account (he uses a different Skyrim installation folder, because he uses nexus mod manager and I use mod organizer).Could that be interfering with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Also I'd like to ask if it's bad that I always save on a new save (I never overwrite saves and I don't have autosave on, I manually save on a new save every time... someone once told me that it's more clean this way), instead of overwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c0c0c0 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 On 8/30/2013 at 9:53 PM, hentaishinri said: Also I'd like to ask if it's bad that I always save on a new save (I never overwrite saves and I don't have autosave on, I manually save on a new save every time... someone once told me that it's more clean this way), instead of overwriting.No, that's probably the best way to do it. Autosave can be dangerous. I'm afraid there isn't much I can take from Papyrus. If it's listing ESPs you've never installed, then I apparently know less about it than I thought. I will say that, for the onces you've uninstalled, there is definately a problem with saving the game with an ESP, then continuing to play it without that ESP. It can leave "relics" that end up ophaned and can cause errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 On 8/30/2013 at 10:52 PM, c0c0c0 said: I will say that, for the onces you've uninstalled, there is definately a problem with saving the game with an ESP, then continuing to play it without that ESP. It can leave "relics" that end up ophaned and can cause errors.I see... so is there any way I can clean that, or remove them, or something? I really don't want to start a new game, I've been playing for months and months on this one :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawin Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I am also in the same boat as you, trying to reduce the amount of these random CTDs. I notice that some of your papyrus errors are the same as mine, namely the first three with the "Hothfollower", "Convenient Horse herding" and "companion valfar" esps. Like you I haven't installed any of those mods. Perhaps a mod author of, say, Convenient Horses added a script for "Convenient Horse herding" to make them compatible in case you have both mods installed? Just a hunch. Maybe your crashes are memory related. Might want to give this tool a try:http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12801/?It appears to have helped increase my game's stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted August 31, 2013 Author Share Posted August 31, 2013 On 8/31/2013 at 12:04 AM, Gawin said: I am also in the same boat as you, trying to reduce the amount of these random CTDs. I notice that some of your papyrus errors are the same as mine, namely the first three with the "Hothfollower", "Convenient Horse herding" and "companion valfar" esps. Like you I haven't installed any of those mods. Perhaps a mod author of, say, Convenient Horses added a script for "Convenient Horse herding" to make them compatible in case you have both mods installed? Just a hunch. Maybe your crashes are memory related. Might want to give this tool a try:http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/12801/?It appears to have helped increase my game's stability.I will give this a try, thank you :) I'm using a few other things to optimize my game, like Skyrim Project Optimization, the CTD and Memory Patch and HiALgoBoost, but nothing that changes the game itself, they're more tweaks.I hope this fits in well with them and I will give it a try, thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hentaishinri Posted September 1, 2013 Author Share Posted September 1, 2013 still crashing, so yea - bump :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 i'd start by deleting your skiyrim.ini and skyrimprefs.ini and see how it goes.After that run boss to get a load order and use the following as a basis for your load order: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/753253-only-you-can-prevent-forest-fires/thirdly, remove all of ERSO. It's no longer updated and more than likely screwing up your game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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