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I have a strange problem (if I call so). Several times abilities that i don't use like heavy armor for example (I use light or clothes) or hand to hand increase and level up. A thing that never happened in vanilla oblivion. Now i'm playing with fcom plus several mods (later i'll post the complete load order).

Anyone experience the same trouble?

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This is my load order made with Wrye Bash.

Please advice me if there others error in the load order also that not concerned the problem of levelling, i'm new in modded Oblivion and so little expert :( :thanks:

* 00 Oblivion.esm

* 01 HorseCombatMaster.esm

* 02 ScreenEffects.esm

* 03 All Natural Base.esm [Version 0.9.2]

* 04 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

* 05 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

* 06 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.61]

* 07 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

* 08 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1]

* 09 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]

* 0A FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]

* 0B Better Cities Resources.esm

* 0C bookplacing.esm [Version 1]

* 0D actors_in_charge.esp

* 0E 300_Brocade_Outfits.esp

* 0F Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

* 10 DLCShiveringIsles.esp

* 11 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

* 12 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

* 13 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

* 14 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

* 15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

* 16 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 17 Fran Armor Add-on.esp

* 18 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp

* 19 AmbientTownSounds.esp

* 1A PCSoundGarrett.esp [Version 2.6]

* 1B All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 0.9.2]

* 1C All Natural.esp [Version 0.9.2]

* 1D All Natural - Enhanced Seasons.esp [Version 0.9.2]

* 1E IWR-Lights.esp

* 1F IWR-Windows.esp

* 20 IWR-Shutters.esp

* 21 Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp

* 22 Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp

* 23 Reznod_Mannequin.esp

* 24 Crowded Cities 15.esp

* 25 Crowded Roads Revisited.esp [Version 1.1]

* 26 FF_Real_Thirst.esp

* 27 FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp

* ++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 28 XSPipeMod.esp [Version 1.2]

* 29 Thieves Arsenal.esp

* 2A ExnemRuneskulls.esp

* ++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 2B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.60]

* 2C Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.61]

* 2D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.60]

* ++ MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

* 2E Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

* 2F FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 30 Loth's Blunt Weapons.esp

* 31 Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp

* ++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 32 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

* 33 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 34 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

* 35 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* ++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 36 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* 38 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* ++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* ++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

* 39 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* ++ FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 3A Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* 3B Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* 3D Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* 3E Is It Safe.esp

* 3F TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]

* ++ FCOM_LessReaversInGates.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* ++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1]

* ++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 40 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]

* ++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 41 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]

* 42 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

* 43 ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

* 44 ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

* 45 za_bankmod.esp

* 46 The Lost Spires.esp

* 47 Mighty Umbra.esp

* ++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 48 MannimarcoComplete.esp

* 49 xuldarkforest.esp

* 4A xulStendarrValley.esp

* 4B xulTheHeath.esp

* 4C XulEntiusGorge.esp

* 4D xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

* 4E LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp

* 4F xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

* 50 xulChorrolHinterland.esp

* 51 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

* 52 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

* 53 LostSpires-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp

* 54 xulLushWoodlands.esp

* 55 xulAncientYews.esp

* 56 xulAncientRedwoods.esp

* 57 xulCloudtopMountains.esp

* 58 xulArriusCreek.esp

* 59 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

* 5A xulRollingHills_EV.esp

* 5B xulPantherRiver.esp

* 5C xulRiverEthe.esp

* 5D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

* 5E Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp

* 5F Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp

* 60 Better Cities IC Arena.esp

* 61 Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp

* 62 Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp

* 63 Better Cities IC Prison.esp

* 64 Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp

* 65 Better Cities IC Temple.esp

* 66 Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp

* 67 Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp

* 68 Better Cities BRAVIL.esp

* 69 Better Cities ANVIL.esp

* 6A Better Cities CHORROL.esp

* 6B BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp

* 6C Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp

* ++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 6D Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp

* ++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* ++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]

* 6E Better Cities BRUMA.esp

* 6F BCBravil-Barrowfields patch.esp

* 70 Better Cities .esp

* 71 xulImperialIsle.esp

* 72 VaultsofCyrodiil.esp

* 73 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

* 74 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

* 75 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp [Version 3.08]

* 76 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp [Version 1.6.1]

* 77 RealisticForceMedium.esp

* 78 PC Sleep Disrober.esp [Version -03]

* 79 RealisticFatigue.esp

* ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

* 7A RealisticHealth.esp

* 7B RealSleep.esp

* 7C MidasSpells.esp

* 7D StealthOverhaul.esp

* ++ Book Placement v2.esp [Version 2.0]

* 7E No psychic guards v1.2.esp

* ++ All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp [Version 0.9.2]

* 7F OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

* ** Cobl Races TNR SI.esp [Version 1.53]

* 80 Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

* 81 Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp

* ** Cobl Races TNR.esp [Version 1.53]

* 82 Nightshade_Armor.esp

* 83 Duke Patricks - Basic Hypothermia.esp

* 84 ScreenControls.esp

* 85 Better Cities IC Market.esp

* 86 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

* ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

* 87 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp

* 88 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

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I have a strange problem (if I call so). Several times abilities that i don't use like heavy armor for example (I use light or clothes) or hand to hand increase and level up. A thing that never happened in vanilla oblivion. Now i'm playing with fcom plus several mods (later i'll post the complete load order).

Anyone experience the same trouble?

 

I notice that your load order might have some problems. BOSS can fix your load order automatically.

 

Look through all your mod's readmes to see if any affect levelling of skills (except OOO, that is. I use it myself and haven't had this problem). Otherwise, the best thing I can suggest is to deactivate your mods one at a time,starting with your most recent additions, until the problem disappears.

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I already use Boss, but now i've discovered that this thing should be a feature of Realistic Fatigue that earn skills abilities when the pc carry many weight.

Thank you for support :thanks:

I have a strange problem (if I call so). Several times abilities that i don't use like heavy armor for example (I use light or clothes) or hand to hand increase and level up. A thing that never happened in vanilla oblivion. Now i'm playing with fcom plus several mods (later i'll post the complete load order).

Anyone experience the same trouble?

 

I notice that your load order might have some problems. BOSS can fix your load order automatically.

 

Look through all your mod's readmes to see if any affect levelling of skills (except OOO, that is. I use it myself and haven't had this problem). Otherwise, the best thing I can suggest is to deactivate your mods one at a time,starting with your most recent additions, until the problem disappears.

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