CTD near Windhelm, Riverwood and.. Sometimes in other areas

[Naryaneth]

Hi everyone !

 

First, sorry for my bad english.

 

Like the title says, I've got CTD when I use the fast travel to go to Windhelm's stabbles or near. But I can go in the city and if I go to Windhelm by the transport, everything is good !

 

I've got a lot of mods.

My loadorder.txt :

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization.esm

TERAArmors.esm

CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm

SPIKE.esm

JSwords.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

GloriousGrass.esp

RevampedExteriorFog.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

Glass Variants.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Better distant LOD waterfalls V3.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Footprints.esp

getSnowy.esp

Beards.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

iHUD.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Rainbows.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp

SkyUI.esp

HighResTexturePack01.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

TERAArmors.esp

TERA Weapons.esp

OrientalRace.esp

DarkNemesis.esp

armored-horses.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Unlimited_Rings.esp

potsanimated.esp

TorchesForSkyrim.esp

TorchesForSkyrim_x2.esp

MoreRainHeavyandDarker.esp

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp

Elven Archer Armor.esp

Jordis.esp

Iona.esp

Lydia.esp

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp

BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp

Magelightshadow.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

Shields of Jorrvaskr by Hothtrooper44.esp

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Conan_Hyborian_Age.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp

SkyMills - Animated Distant Mills.esp

DenserGrass.esp

SkyRealism - Grass.esp

DDX.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp

I CANT use BOSS to organize this loadorder because I don't have internet yet (I've just move to another apartment, I can go on the Internet because there is a Public Wifi near here, but I cant use steam and BOSS)

My config :

i7 2700k

Sapphire 7970 3Go

4*4RAM (gskill ripjaws)

VelociRaptor 250Go

WC

Thanks for help !

And sorry about my english T_T

Tell me if you need more informations !

[warlordmordrid]

Sounds like a mod conflict. Running boss is first thing. Since you do not have internet yet, you can always do the manual way of disabling mods until you do not see the problem any more. More specifically, the mods that directly affect those areas that you are having problems.

 

Mordrid

[Naryaneth]

Okay, so it can be a conflict.

 

I'll check that this afternoon.

Thanks !

[Naryaneth]

Okay so, if i disable Realistic Water Two, Skyrim works.

 

But.. This mod is just amazing. Is there a way to keep it ? (remove another mod or anything else ?)

 

I'm looking for an answer on internet, thanks !

[vlaka]

i'm no expert but I can suggest some things :smile:

 

1. Using WATER and realistic water two seems like it'd create conflicts as they do the same thing.

2. Choose one grass mod.

3. Claralux is outdated and known to bloat save games and cause ctd's, that and you're using other lighting mods.

4. Getsnowy can be replaced by Frostfall (has shader effects and you can choose not to play with hypothermia)

 

Here's my load order, maybe you could base yours roughly on mine and see how you go :smile: And by roughly I don't mean use the same mod, just move the mods that are similar or the same in the same load order ;) )

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

SPIKE.esm

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Dragonborn.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

Real Clouds.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp

BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight_Dawnguard.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

Immersive Events.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

AchieveThat.esp

OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

BFT Ships and Carriages.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

ABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp

ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

HeartBreaker.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

Immersive Followers.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Height Adjusted Races - True Giants and Mammoths.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

RND_Water-Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ReProccer.esp

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version - NH.esp

WATER Misc.esp

Vibrant Auroras.esp

Enhanced Distant Terrain 2.esp

Enhanced Distant Terrain 2 DB.esp

OBIS-IW Patch.esp

datgrass .esp

SkyRealism - Grass.esp

I used BOSS and general mod knowledge to order the list into this working order. Tes5edit also reports no problems with the load order :smile:

Good luck with it all!!!

Edited August 30, 2013 by vlaka

[Naryaneth]

Thanks a lot for this complete answer !

 

- If I disable WATER, the water in game will be less beautiful isn't it ?

- I've many grass mods it's true but Grass On Steroids and Denser Grass are disable, do you think it's necessary to disable more grass mods ?

- Oh x_x Claralux outdated ? I didn't know. I'll disable it. Damn, I loved this mod.

- So I'll disable getsnowy !

 

Sorry for faults again x_x.

Thanks for your answer ! I'll try to change my modloader !

[vlaka]

Well the water mods depend on how long you take staring at water :tongue: WATER makes it look good whereas realistic water makes it flow realistically in rivers, lakes etc. I'm not sure if they're compatible together as I don't use realistic water.

Choose only one grass mod. Skyrealism - Grass is a good one to keep and one of my favourites.

You might have to start a new game since Claralux more than likely has left behind some kind of scripting etc.

 

One other thing i'm pretty sure if you're not running the latest version of Antz in my pantz It might be causing save bloat and ctd's.

There's an updated and interactive version of Antz in my pantz: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18855/? :smile:

 

good luck!

 

p.s. realistic lighting and ELFX might not work well together.

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for this complete answer !

 

- If I disable WATER, the water in game will be less beautiful isn't it ?

- I've many grass mods it's true but Grass On Steroids and Denser Grass are disable, do you think it's necessary to disable more grass mods ?

- Oh x_x Claralux outdated ? I didn't know. I'll disable it. Damn, I loved this mod.

- So I'll disable getsnowy !

 

Sorry for faults again x_x.

Thanks for your answer ! I'll try to change my modloader !

 

Edited August 30, 2013 by vlaka

[vlaka]

oh one other thing, depending on what patch version Skyrim you have you can use this to get an idea of what mods to use and what order to instal them etc

 

1.8: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_Skyrim1.8

Legendary (1.9): http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition

[muuuuhya]

you have skyrim flora overhaul which does what it says, it alter the complete flora, including grass

 

choose only one water mod, that one you like more, they look different, e.g. pure waters makes water clearer, w.a.t.e.r. adds plants and wet rocks etc..

 

for lighting the same, if you to decide to combine different lighting mods read the description of the parts to see what exactly every .esp does,

 

e.g. i'm using climates of tamriel for weather and lighting in exteriors and realistic lighting overhaul for interiors, i would like to have elfx for dungeons, but sadly i can't cause the dungeon part depends on the main file, which alters exteriors and conflicts with COT, i had to choose too

[Naryaneth]

Oh I see, I se what choices I'm going to make, I'll post here to share my results, thanks a lot !

 

 

EDIT : Have I to unistall the mod or can I just disable it in the loadorder of NMM ?

Edited August 30, 2013 by Naryaneth