mofailed999 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Anyone experience this before? Could be a load order thing? This my load order...it may need a more experienced person to help. Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthfires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espSkyrim Supplemental Patch.espUnofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp Havok Breast Physic.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmApachiiHair.esmSGHairPackBase.esmSexLab.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmJackGaPub.esm Diverse Random NormalAttack.espNewStatueOfShalidorMagicLights.espCutting Room Floor.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espSkyUI.espExtended UI.espUIExtensions.espNCLS merged.espFNIS.espXPMSE.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espRaceMenuOverlays.espvwrNeckSeamFix.espCitrusHead - Standalone.espAnimated Dragon Wings.espnem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.espRaceMenuSKYAVX.espNordic Warmaiden Body Hair.espFreckleMania.espCommunityOverlays1_0T30.espNatureborn Body Paints.espSFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.espZMD'S Obscure Overlays RaceMenu.espBetterFreeCamera.espLookCloser.esp3PCO.espInvisibility Eyes Fix.espabotFiresHurt.espImproved Dragon Shouts.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espEnhancedAuraWhisper_Corpses_IDS.espFacelightPlus.espWintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espSkyrim Bigger Trees Full.espimmersive roads.espEnhancedWetnessandPuddles.espPrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espParamount - Epitome (Guard Torches and Wizard Duel Enabled).espHavok Breast Physic.espHavok Breast Physic Dragonborn.espHavok Breast Physic Dawnguard.espDepthsOfSkyrim.espSea of Spirits.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espComplete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espSOSRaceMenu.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espAK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.espWetandCold.espAHZmoreHUD.espFISS.espSkyTweak.esp AMatterOfTime.espAddItemMenuLE.espiHUD.esp360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.espKaliliesBrows.espKaiSFemaleHHDT.espFNISSexyMove.esp360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.espMeridaHair.espKS Hairdo's.espKS Hairdos - HDT.espSGHairPackAIO.espHairstyles Switcher.espSkyrimIsWindy.espReyliik do Skyrim.espBeastHHBB.esprrhairargonian.espArgonianFins.espForsworn Natural Unhide Amulets.espForsworn Boots Replacer.espRp Toe Nails.espBathing in Skyrim - Main.espEatingSleepingDrinking.espPrivate Needs Discreet.espCombatFatigue.espDSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.espDSAMG - Greybeard Fix.espOpenFaceGuardHelmets.espSPTConsistentOlderPeople.espVivid Landscapes.espBlendedRoads.espCannabisUpdate.espFusax2.espSavage Wolves and Feral Foxes.espDragonCombatDialogue.espchfshPlayerVoicesets.espLuminousAtronachs.espDeadlyDragons.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espDiverseDragonsCollection3.espBF.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espSexy Armor Replacer Patch.espGri_BeastFeet.espElderly&Adults.espSPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Inconsequential NPCs.espInconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.espInconsequential NPCs Visual Overhaul.espMVABasic.espSMIM-Merged-All.espSkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.espRun For Your Lives.espBlowing in the Wind.espSkyrimReputation_S2011.espSleepTight.espConvenient Horses.espVivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.espnorecruitment.espCreepyDungeonMusic-Add.espCreepyDungeonMusic-Replace.espFantasy Music Full Replace.espMorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.espBarefoot Footstep Extended.espDifferentBanditVoicetypesAndLanguages.espRingsAndAmulets.espLeftHandRings.espLeftHandRings - Dawnguard.espReduce Attack Scating Movement.espPlayRandomIdle.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espBrawlSkip.esp GiantGiants.espSkyTweak.espJS Emissive Eyes - Johnskyrim.espThe Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.espApachiiHairStyles.espApachiiHairStylesELVES.espWondersofWeather.esp Vividweathers.esp truestorms.espVWTSPatch.espCG4 TrueStormsWithCG4LensFX.espmintylightningmod.espVivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.espUse Special Markers.espBloody Cannibalism.espConditional Expressions.espbm_SimpleAction.espTaberuAnimation.espFarm Animals_HF.espBijin AIO.espReyliik do Skyrim.espSOS - Shop.esparmored-horses.espGrandPaladinLE.espEmbersHD.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espBlowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp[Dint999] KSH's HDT.espKSWigsHDT.espMVAIvarstead.espMVARorikstead.espCannabis.espApachiiHelmetWigs.espUndriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.espDragonBoneBikini.esp_Abandoned tavern.espUphill-Downhill Project.espClanggedin's Skyrim Auras.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espSC_IceShader.esp Dragon Horns and Tails.espGiant Mammoths 50size 2k HP.espmihailhelhest.espStrangeRunes.espEatingSleepingDrinking.espHairstyles Switcher.espInnBath.espPrivate Needs Discreet.espBathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Get Out Of My Way.espSlap.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espThief skills rebalance for Ordinator.espZ Eagle Eye -Patch for Ordinator-.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp more idle markers.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espWetandCold.espWetandCold-Ashes.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp SFO)RealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espSaturation50percent.espDynDOLOD.esp Please help? 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Papajack55 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Itâs not just a load order thing, itâs a load thing. You have too many mods whether esl or esp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hello, I have 205 active plugins, i thought the limit was 250? What would be a more stable number of plugins? I use a mod manager with loot. I have cleaned my save/scrpts with save tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 250 .esp is the SkyrimLE limit right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajack55 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 255 is the limitâ¦. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 255 is the limitâ¦.But i use only 205 esp's so how have I got too many plugins? I don't understand this. If 205 esp's is too much then what is a more stable limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted January 16, 2022 Author Share Posted January 16, 2022 I think my problem is wintermyst, it's the only vendor related mod i have... Also ordinator & wintermyst, i've used both many times in the past but this time ordinator is messing up in the perk tree too... some of the skills won't show for use after i unlocked them like the drum dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofailed999 Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 Ok thanks for all the useless help, it WAS load order. I fixed it by moving wintermyst as high as possible on my load order. Loot won't save you when you start moving things after it's recommendation, it's risky if you just don't know what you're doing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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