Skyrim Random Lockups Need Assistance!

[DreadFeign]

Hey there folks. I've got a bit of a problem. My game has been randomly locking up a lot lately and I'm fairly certain it's mod related. Usually I'd suspect it's just Skyrim reaching the 2.5 or 3GB limit or whatever and locking up because of it but I'm not so certain anymore. Each time the game locks up it's been mostly random, although I've noticed that I've even been locking up in interiors, during combat or doing just about anything else. There's no real pattern but prior to just recently I'd never really experienced a lockup during combat or in an interior.

 

I have already taken some measures to either reduce or stop the lockups but nothing has helped. I've tried reducing all of my HD texture packs down to 2k from 4k, removed some suspect mods, swapped out mods for other newer/better ones, cleaned any dirty mods, created/rebuilt bashed patch whenever necessary and run BOSS frequently to no avail.

 

I'm pretty much out of ideas as to the culprit and I am hoping that by explaining my situation and posting my load order that someone can spot something that I haven't yet. Thanks in advance!

 

So here's my load order:

 

(Not shown is my ENB stuff/Quietcool ENB)

 

 

 

1 are active mods, 0 are mods disabled for the bashed patch

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
EagleEyePerk.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
More Interactive Items.ESM=1
More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM=1
More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM=1
SPIKE.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
CharGen Morphs.esp=1
Follower_Addon_V2_.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
fantasy music overhaul.esp=1
skyrimsoundtrackexpansion.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
adura_skyrimmerchantmod.esp=1
Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=0
CallingCardFence.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
EpisodeParallax.esp=1
ImprovedSkillBooks.esp=1
JBS_banking_redux.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Classic.esp=1
Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp=1
Pupetteer Master.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp=1
Destructible_bottles.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Footprints - Ash.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
BMC - Craftable Glove Alternatives.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp=1
FaceMasksforNPC.esp=1
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp=1
Sword Master Armor.esp=1
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp=1
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
Master of weapons - All In One.esp=1
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp=1
Lock Overhaul.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1
quest_pitfighter.esp=1
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
getdrunk.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
ImmediateDragons.esp=1
skoomaeffect.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
xvisionchildren.esp=1
xvisionchildren - hearthfire.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
LoS and RE patch.esp=1
TAVESolitude.esp=1
TAVEWindhelm.esp=1
L0S and TaVE patch.esp=1
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp=1
RiftenThiefEdition.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
BFSEffects.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
ACE Realistic Fighting.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
ACE BYOG.esp=1
ACE Speech.esp=1
ACE Archery.esp=1
ACE Archery Dragonborn.esp=1
ACE Armor.esp=1
ACE Enchanting.esp=1
ACE Magic.esp=1
ACE Melee.esp=1
ACE Smithing.esp=1
ACE Synergy.esp=1
ABT - Loot Arrows +100%.esp=0
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +75%.esp=1
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +75%.esp=1
ABT - Merchants Arrows +100%.esp=0
ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp=1
ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.esp=1
ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
Brows.esp=1
Presets 2-3.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp=1
In Your Shadow.esp=1
In Your Shadow - Dawnguard.esp=1
In Your Shadow - Dragonborn.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
rcrnShaders.esp=1
RCRNdawnguard.esp=1
RCRNvolumetric.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
EzEWorldMap.esp=1
EzEMapSolstheim.esp=1
NPC_Overhaul_1_3_.esp=1
_eyes_Masker.esp=1
ASIS-Dependency.esp=1
ASIS.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

 

 

Hardware Specs:

 

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

AMD FX-8150 8-core Processor @3.6Ghz

Gigabyte GA-970a-D3 AM3+ SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Motherboard

Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2.5Gb OC Edition (Using the latest Radeon beta drivers)

16GB RAM

Rocketfish 750w PSU

 

[vlaka]

Looks like you have a fair few mods which utilise scripting.

Have you tried runnning Tes5edit with your mods to see if any load errors are present?

Which enb binary are you using?

 

One way to see how your memory usage is going is to use the Skyrim Performance Monitor found here: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6491/?

If you're using the latest enb binary with enboost.exe make sure to go to setup and select detect enb binary :)

[DreadFeign]

Haven't tried the TES5Edit thing. I'm using v0200 for ENB. Was running performance monitor and my memory averaged out at 1.5GB and maxed out at just over 2GB. Ran over a period of an hour and 7 minutes this time without lockup as I exited the game to post results... It's really odd. Sometimes I can play for 2+ hours without lockup, sometimes it happens within 5-10 minutes of starting a play session.

Edited September 9, 2013 by DreadFeign

[vlaka]

Skyrim is a cruel and fickle thing :sad:

 

Good idea to run boss to see if there's any mods that need a good cleaning, then run Tes5edit and apply said cleaning but before you do that it's best to check mod pages to see if it actually needs it or it's intentionally made with the dirty edits.

 

Have a look through this: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_Skyrim1.8 (even though its for 1.8 the mods are basically the same and up to date) It lists which mods need cleaning etc and an entire list of recommended mods.

There's also this: http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.6 which is more uptodate but I prefer using the 1.8 version and visiting the mod pages to see if there's been any posts in regards to cleaning or crashes etc ;) Always a goo idea to do the manual work.

 

Best to use mods which are updated regularly and not from 2012 or that add simple fluff to the game (like more interactive objects for example which in my opinion is just unnecessary havok scripting etc)

Edited September 9, 2013 by vlaka

[DreadFeign]

Aww but I really enjoy my more interactive objects! I just think it's unrealistic for certain things to not be movable or grabbable... I also tend to clean only the mods that are flagged for it in BOSS. Whether the cleaning was unnecessary or not I really don't know.

[vlaka]

what im trying to say is keep mods simple, less scripts the better, clean, use compatibility patches and don't over do it ;)

[rattlehead5000]

I just think CTDs are going to happen now and then. I played 13 hours with a new character and no CTD. Then I got two in 5 minutes with no new mods installed and Skyrim Performance Monitor saying I was still well in the 'safe' zone.

I just don't know man...what can you say?

 

But I agree that too many scripted mods aren't a great idea. I've learned that the hard way. That, and too many hi-res texture packs. Since going back to the official hi-res DLC and fewer scripted mods, my game is much, much more stable.

 

Also, there are a couple of mods there (not saying which because I don't want to make it sound like they're bad mods) that are known to be problematic. Just google search a bit and see which mods consistently cause problems for people.

[DreadFeign]

Also, there are a couple of mods there (not saying which because I don't want to make it sound like they're bad mods) that are known to be problematic. Just google search a bit and see which mods consistently cause problems for people.

 

Which mods? Anything helps. I've begun considering getting rid of either the highly scripted mods or some (maybe all) of my HD texture packs. Maybe I am running too many, though I don't think I am.

 

Currently for hi-res textures I use:

 

AMidianBorn Book of Silence / Textures for Immersive Armors

Skyrim HD 2K (Lite)

Beards Hi-Res

Better Males (Male body mod) with hi-res face maps by Geonox

Brows Hi-Res

CBBE with Nuska's Mature Skin

EBT (Enhanced Blood Textures; not sure if hi-res)

HQ3D Map with 2k textures

Hi-Res Legible Road Signs

Project Parallax Remastered HD2K

Realistic Smoke and Embers Hi-res

Snow and Rocks Textures HD 2K

 

Plus a lot of my armor mods use high res textures though I don't have a ton of custom armors...

 

I'm also using SMIM.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for which of my mods/scripted mods I should consider getting rid of (muh grab movable statics :sad: )...?

Edited September 10, 2013 by DreadFeign

[vlaka]

here's what I would get rid of...

 

ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
EagleEyePerk.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
More Interactive Items.ESM=1
More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM=1
HighResTexturePac

more Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM=1
k01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
CharGen Morphs.esp=1
Follower_Addon_V2_.esp=1
Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1
fantasy music overhaul.esp=1
skyrimsoundtrackexpansion.esp=1
TradeBarter.esp=1
adura_skyrimmerchantmod.esp=1
Bring Out Your Dead.esp=1
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=0
CallingCardFence.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp=1
Dead Body Collision.esp=1
EpisodeParallax.esp=1
ImprovedSkillBooks.esp=1
JBS_banking_redux.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Classic.esp=1
Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp=1
Pupetteer Master.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp=1
Destructible_bottles.esp=1
Footprints.esp=1
Footprints - Ash.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1
BMC - Craftable Glove Alternatives.esp=1
FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp=1
FaceMasksforNPC.esp=1
Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp=1
Sword Master Armor.esp=1
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp=1
DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
Master of weapons - All In One.esp=1
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp=1
Lock Overhaul.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp=1
quest_pitfighter.esp=1
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1
getdrunk.esp=1
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
ImmediateDragons.esp=1
skoomaeffect.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
xvisionchildren.esp=1
xvisionchildren - hearthfire.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
LoS and RE patch.esp=1
TAVESolitude.esp=1
TAVEWindhelm.esp=1
L0S and TaVE patch.esp=1
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp=1
RiftenThiefEdition.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
BFSEffects.esp=1
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1
ACE Realistic Fighting.esp=1
ACE BYOG.esp=1
ACE Speech.esp=1
ACE Archery.esp=1
ACE Archery Dragonborn.esp=1
ACE Armor.esp=1
ACE Enchanting.esp=1
ACE Magic.esp=1
ACE Melee.esp=1
ACE Smithing.esp=1
ACE Synergy.esp=1
Sneak Tools.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp=1
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
Skippy's Book Overhaul.esp=1
In Your Shadow.esp=1
In Your Shadow - Dawnguard.esp=1
In Your Shadow - Dragonborn.esp=1
rcrnShaders.esp=1
RCRNdawnguard.esp=1
RCRNvolumetric.esp=1
EzEWorldMap.esp=1
EzEMapSolstheim.esp=1
NPC_Overhaul_1_3_.esp=1
_eyes_Masker.esp=1

Reconsider using frostfall, wet and cold and RnD.

Skyre does almost all of what your 'other' minor mods do. Have a look at using it instead of having 50 different perk overhauls, smithing, combat tweaks/overhauls.

 

I will include my mod list with what I consider 'essential' for my playthrough as a guide for mods you might like to use. It is pretty much 90% stable.

NOTE: is you use Skyre you wont need sneaktools, smithing overhauls and ABT (only the looting option vendor quantity)

It's entirely up to you, but the less mods you use the easier it is to pinpoint specific ctd causing mods AND lets you play instead of fixing :P

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Dragonborn.esm

JSwords.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

SPIKE.esm

TravellersOfSkyrim.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Dragonborn.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

JSwords_Load_Screens.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp

BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp

WiS IV - Waters Wars.esp

ERSO 10 - RUS-(SIM)-Travellers and Adventurers.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp

TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp

AchieveThat.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Beards.esp

ABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

UnreadBooksGlow.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

WaterAttacking.esp

WATER.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

Fullcamprespawn.esp

Height Adjusted Races - True Giants and Mammoths.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp

Pre Automatic Variants IC Patch.esp

Pre ReProccer IW IA Patch.esp

ReProccer.esp

PreASISPatchIW.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

qotsafans Miscellaneous ReProccer + IA Patch.esp

qotsafans LeveledLists JSwords IW IA Patch.esp

qotsafans Books Patch.esp

qotsafans Ingestibles Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edited September 10, 2013 by vlaka

[DreadFeign]

Heh that's a lot of mods to get rid of. Or did you not mean to highlight all of them? I've heard SkyRe is very difficult to get working with a lot of other mods and quite frankly I prefer ACE.

 

UPDATE: So I ended up doing a complete uninstall of all my mods. Followed the guide to making Skyrim vanilla again and also picked up Mod Organizer (I've been using NMM since it came out). I've been following guides for optimal setup of Skyrim/utilities/mods and after hours I'm currently only on the step to optimize my vanilla and HRDLC textures, lol. It's gonna be a long night...

Edited September 11, 2013 by DreadFeign