random feezes, cave stutter and more :D

[lichy123]

i opened it in the mod troubleshoot but tbh i think it suits better here, no? so heres a copy paste with some additions

 

right off the bat, i have too many mods and i know it.. naturally that means the game will run into problems at some point but hey, that's life.. BUT! if i can do anything to make it better just a lil bit, why not?

 

problems:

 

1)random freezes - i believe that mostly happens during combat but if memory serves me correctly it happens randomly too when i just stroll around. but yeah, mostly in combat. and once the game freezes i need to restart it :\

 

2)too many scripts?- just something i noticed that sometimes stuff don't appear until i restart the game, or quicksave and quickload. ill explain: let's say i talk to vilja and i wanna look at her inventory. i ask her to trade with me and then i wait and wait but the window doesn't appear!! so i quicksave, quickload and after about 2 secs the window appears. weird. i was also at that aesir hall from the aesir armor mod which has some scripted stuff like the blood seal. sometimes it worked sometimes it didn't and i had to revert to my earlier save to try again to make it work. so its like stuff just don't trigger because of some script block or something, i dunno.. im not savy enough to even pretend i know what this issue is... not one bit.

 

3) shadow striping outside- i hate you, skyrim shadows!!

 

4) cave stutter - its weird because normally the game is silky smooth at 60fps but even with 60 fps when im in caves the camera keeps stuttering. both annoying and weird.

 

im sure i have more issues but i got my mind on other things atm so i can't remember them :\ heres some pictures! one is boss log and one is a pic of skyrim performance monitor during a run that i picked up right after a freez that forced me to restart the game in some dungeon, which stuttered at a lot of points. (also i stopped playing when i ran into an infinite loading screen once i finished the dungeon and wanted to go outside ><)

 

 

 

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5254/44r4.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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im suspecting having both vilja and Cerwiden follow me at the same time might make things extra buggy for my game, with vilja being visibly buggy, as mentioned above, and cetwiden being script heavy methinks. plus they both have quests and if i recall quest mods can't be trusted :tongue:

what do you guys think?

note1: after another play-through i had a weird bug where the game crashed and each time i tried to load my quicksave the game would turn to black screen b4 i get to do anything. after a day of trying to fix it i loaded a previous game and wondered if the quicksave would work now.. and it did. no idea how i could load it again after loading a previous save.

 

note2: some caves dont stutter at all. weird. so its caves and druager tombs and stuff but not all of them..

 

note3: the freezes are combat only from what i can see but i might be wrong. edit4: im wrong, freezes out of combat too.

 

 

 

 

so yeah, thanks in advance. hope i didn't do a horrible mistake somewhere and have an egg on my face

Edited September 11, 2013 by lichy123

[vlaka]

you're pushing awfully close to the 3.1gb limit O_o

 

Boss the load order then Tes5edit it.

Unofficial patches should be top of the .esp order, above anything else.

 

Some ERSO modules use scripting, just how stable/clean they are I can't say, it hasn't been updated in a while and I personally avoid all the modules with added scripting.

 

See how you go with my above suggestions :)

[lichy123]

the 3.1 limit is vram? i thought it was ram. i have no idea why SoS went to the top of the esp list, tbh, its something quite new. it also ignores my user rules so i need to remember doing it manually.. not only that, but it said that an error was made while making rules about SoS so it wont let me edit my user rules now because the window won't show up. god damn SoS.... anyways, the load order still works according to Tes5Edit, if i understood you correctly about "Tes5edit it"

 

edit: while putting my whole mod list on tes5edit and clicking on apply filter for cleaning i did notice pretty much everything has conflicts.. i don't know how to tackle it and where to begin with.. and some mods even have those on purpose from what i hear..

 

look at it!! its more red than rudolf's nose T_T

 

 

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2961/fp5s.jpg

 

 

 

edit: game still freezes..

edit2: the sound of skyrim ESPs are actually masters so.. can't load them after the patches

edit3: the freezes are not combat only.. had a good run outside then suddenly froze when i discovered a new location.. so much progress lost *sob*

Edited September 10, 2013 by lichy123

[lichy123]

still having the issues, guys :( what is it? a script lag? papyrus stuff? i dunno.. someone can help me solve it?

[vlaka]

ignore what I said about you hitting the 3.1gb limit, i read it wrong.

 

I'd look at culling some mods.

 

Have you disabled your mods, started a new game and entered a save to see if there's a performance drop?

[lichy123]

you mean start a vanilla games and see if the problem continues? it would probably fix that, tho i wouldn't wanna play it :P

[vlaka]

all I can suggest is go through your mods, see what are updated and what isnt, read through comment sections of mods and decide what to keep and what to remove.

Can't expect flawless playthrough of Skyrim when you begin modding it. It's a crappy console ported engine and an even crappier memory limitation which will always get in the way.

http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.6 is always good place to start.

[lichy123]

well, what can i do specifically against script lag?

[vlaka]

you could try this:

[Papyrus]
fUpdateBudgetMS=800
fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000
iMinMemoryPageSize=256
iMaxMemoryPageSize=512
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=2457600

 

just make sure you make a backup of your skyrim.ini

Overtweaking the papyrus entry can cause more harm than good.

[lichy123]

got it, thanks :) so what are the risks i might get? you know.. just so i can know its because of it if it would happen and i see it...