gurgelstock Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 I have been playing a non-modded oblivion for about 1 week, no black or grey screens at all! I installed some mods, and it started. First only when sneaking, later at various occasions until I finally noticed a blackscreen that I got when I put on a helmet. Two of the mods installed were NPC New Clothes and HGEC and I think this is the problemWhen for example wearing a fur armor I get the black screen only in first person and when sneaking, when wearing an iron helmet, I am getting it in 3rd person, the grey screen is still random, but if I dont wear any clothes I will get no black/grey screens. So either the HGEC meshes dont work together with NPC New Clothes or NPC New Clothes is buggy in the first place. Just wanted to write this since many people here think the black screen bug is hardware- or graphics-related. Well it isnt always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowcran Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Learning to use Wrye Bash, you'll find it helps a ton with mods. Plus, it has a "Nvidia Fog Fix" which helps a ton with that problem. Download it and the 2 pythons downloads that go with it and you won't have as many problems. Hell, I haven't had any of these since using Wrye Bash. http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368 Download both files on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossDweebe Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yes - there is more than one Nvidia Black screen problem.Loading the Nvidia black screen fixes just after the Unofficial Patch(which is supposed to fix one of the problems, btw) works best for me.If you are using Shivering Isles then place them next after SI and the SIunofficial patch if you are using it. ie:esm'sUOPSIUOP SInvidianvidia A lot of people swear by Wrye Bash, but I get along with good old OBMM. - Maybe that's why I still get an occasional crash or lock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgelstock Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 I cant use the unofficial patch. My game wont start once its installed. But I wanted to learn a little bit about wrye bash anyway so Ill check that out right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossDweebe Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I cant use the unofficial patch. My game wont start once its installed. I only mentioned that as an example. I had the same problem as you are having until I set up as I described.The load order for the nivdia patches without UOP or SI would be first, after the esm's. I expect.I would maybe think twice before using UOP again, but I didn't use it with my first go 'round, so I thought I'd try this time. Still I wonder why your game won't start with it installed ?Are you using XP or Vista ? My understanding was that the black screen bug was related to the nvidia drivers and their reaction to certain elements of the Oblivion game engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgelstock Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Are you using XP or Vista ?My understanding was that the black screen bug was related to the nvidia drivers and their reaction to certain elements of the Oblivion game engine. I am using XP x64, which is kind of sluggish sometimes but works great for most of the times. Like I said, I never had the bug when I used a non-modded Oblivion. I am btw using a 8800 GTX, so its most likely like you said: Nvidia + game elements (modded, most likely) causes these problems. I havent gotten any black/grey screens recently, (no fix or uop or bashing applied/done) so I am happy right now :DNow I just need to find out how to light up my game again. Natural Environemnts made the nights and interiors so dark, its annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgelstock Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Havent had the issue for quite some time but suddenly there it goes again. I tried various fixes (blackscreenbugfix , nvidiblackscreenbugfix) until I finally found one that really works: blackscreen fix for natural interiors (I AM using that mod) No more blackscreen since then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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