JadeTora Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Eh so I've been playing with mods on my Oblivion and all has been well, nothings gone wrong. All my mods run flawlessly and I haven't had problem 1.. Then I did something.. I decided I was going to screw around and make some funny screen shots.. So I run up to a character everyone knows is male and typed the ~, selected him with my mouse and typed in "SexChange" figuring it'd do the same as it does to a normal character. ...I was wrong My Oblivion froze up and suddenly crashed then when I tried to start it back up it gets to "Bethesda" at the beginning and then crashes to desktop. No error message, no "Oblivion needs to close" just disappears and goes to desktop. Did I destroy Oblivion by trying to warp reality or is there a way to fix this? D: Please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halororor Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Remove the files in your Mydocuments/my games/oblivion folder. Move the saves to another folder and check if it starts if that folder is empty. It happened to my Fallout 3 and removing everything in that folder solved my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeTora Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Remove the files in your Mydocuments/my games/oblivion folder. Move the saves to another folder and check if it starts if that folder is empty. It happened to my Fallout 3 and removing everything in that folder solved my problem. Didn't do anything. I moved them to another folder, tried to start up and it still didn't work. It did the same thing as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwaxalot Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Try renaming the oblivion.ini file to something else. (The one in mydocuments\mygames\oblivion folder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeTora Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Try renaming the oblivion.ini file to something else. (The one in mydocuments\mygames\oblivion folder) Doing that got it from the "Bethesda" thing to "Loading" where it turns red a little and then suddenly crashes to desktop just like before. No error, nothing, just straight to desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwaxalot Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Try renaming the oblivion.ini file to something else. (The one in mydocuments\mygames\oblivion folder) Doing that got it from the "Bethesda" thing to "Loading" where it turns red a little and then suddenly crashes to desktop just like before. No error, nothing, just straight to desktop. Allright. Then it's possible you may have to completely uninstall and reinstall Oblivion. Here's a guide for Uninstalling Oblivion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Here is my updated reinstall, based on the one from the beth forum as well as other sources and my own experience. But made simpler (I hope) Bben46 Complete Reinstall Procedure for OblivionRevised 3/9/09: modified the disclaimer. I would appreciate any feedback on this as it is something I expect to post often and I hate to give bogus or useless information. Even though this has worked for many people, You get a disclaimer, just like the big software companies use to limit liability.This is usually a last resort and your game is already trashed. I cannot be responsible for any damage you manage to do to your game when trying this. You are free to use this procedure and post it as you see fit. If you make any changes, please take responsibility for them and document your changes so people won't blame me. As far as I know, no computer, game or animals have ever been harmed by the indiscriminate use of this procedure. When you uninstall Oblivion it doesn't really uninstall everything. Then when you start adding mods before you have started the game, some things may not get initialized properly. Here is my recommended procedure for uninstalling and reinstalling. The game uninstaller does not remove your mods, save games or Oblivion.ini or the entries that the original installation of Oblivion placed in your Windows registry. It also does not remove helper programs such as OBSE, OBMM, Wrye Bash, The construction set or any other programs you have installed in the \Oblivion folder or the save game folder. DO NOT delete the Oblivion.exe or the Oblivion folder as that will cause problems when you try to uninstall or reinstall - allow the game uninstaller to take care of it. Uninstalling Oblivion - you gotta remove it completely before you can reinstall it. DO NOT DELETE THE GAME FOLDERS YET! This is very important.If you delete them,it causes problems later. My instructions assume you are using Windows XP and have installed Oblivion into the default location. If you are using Vista or Linux, the file locations may be different, however, the procedure will be the same. For a full reinstall, first you can try to preserve your mods and save games. I recommend that you save them in a new folder with a new name. Create the new folder in C:\Backup_Oblivion - or any other name you will remember, just as long as it is not in the programs folder. Then copy the data folder where your mods are to the new folder - do not erase them, copy them. And in the new folder, rename the \data folder to \olddata. Then copy and rename the folder that has your saved games and Oblivion.ini, C:\documents and settings\your user name\my documents\My Games\oblivion to something like \My games\Old Oblivion - this saves your saved games and the oblivion.ini file. Then, using the original CD, NOT the Launcher on your Hard drive. Select uninstall. After it completes the uninstall, reboot your computer - this is important as it allows Windows to remove some references to the original Oblivion. This would be the time to erase all of the helper programs you have in the \Oblivion folder. Such as OBMM, OBSE and some others. The simplest way is to delete the folder completely. The new install will re create the folder for you along with a fresh oblivion.ini and when you start the game and make a save, a new save folder and new \data folder. Now you can delete the game folders if you want to do a complete fresh reinstall. Your original saved games & mods are backed up if you want to try to resurrect them later. Now to remove the registry entries that were left behind. If all else fails, this usually works to resurrect your game. I do not recommend manually editing the registry unless you know what you are doing. A mistake here could make your entire computer unusable. There are several good programs for removing left behind entries. The one I use is ccleaner. Be sure to reboot before using it, and again after. It is free and available here: http://majorgeeks.com/download4191.html This would also be a good time to do a file clean up. Run the built in Windows 'Disk Cleanup' routine. If you uses the ccleaner, most of this has already been done, but it won't hurt to do it anyway. Now that everything is cleaned up, do a full defrag on your hard drive to leave a large uncluttered area to reinstall to. This prevents your game from installing in a fragmented way, with parts scattered all over the drive. It also will speed up the install a little. It takes a while, but may speed up your game as well as the rest of your computer. At this point Oblivion should not exist on your computer. Now to Reinstall. Again using the original CD, install Oblivion. NOTE: If you are using Vista, DO NOT install to the default directory. Instead make a new directory I recommend C:\Games. Install Oblivion there to avoid the hassle with Vista UAC blocking mods. Before adding any mods, patches, helper programs, Shivering Isles or anything else, start the game and make a save. This initializes some stuff that needs to be initialized. If you are using the Game of the Year version of Oblivion you should not need any patches, skip the patching part. Now, If you DO NOT use Shivering Isles, patch the game using ONLY the latest Oblivion patch. All of the stuff from the earlier patches is included. Be sure you use the proper language patch. If you use the wrong one it may work, but with a strange mixture of languages. (Germanglish?) Or it may crash. NOTE: there are two English Patches UK & US and they are different. (Some people actually think we speak the same language) Use the one that matches your original disk. If you use Shivering Isles, Install it now. DO NOT install the Oblivion patch. Install Shivering Isles, then ONLY the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the updates for Oblivion are included. There is only one Shivering Isles patch for both US & UK English (Maybe sometimes we do speak the same language.) Now, again start the game, make sure it looks right, move around a little to test it, and make a save. Test to be sure everything is working right (No purple objects or yellow blocks) Before adding any mods, back up both your \data folder and the save game folder. Copy them, don't move or rename them, to a different folder - such as \Bethesda\Clean Oblivion\data and \Bethesda\clean Oblivion\saves. Note that this is a different folder than the one used for your old data and saves. Note, Your Oblivion.ini file is in the same folder, but separate from, the save game folder. Now, if you want to try to run with your old mods, first rename the original folders. The \data folder to \newdata and the \oldata back to \data. this restores all of your mods. You should now have 2 data folders \data, and \newdata in your \oblivion folder To restore your original saves and ini file, rename the new My Games\Oblivion to something like \New Oblivion. and the \Old oblivion to \oblivion - this restores all of your saved games and your original Oblivion.ini file. DO NOT erase the files you renamed. These are your backup files in case the original mods do not work or give you the same problem. If you have the same problem, it is most likely caused by a mod. However, you now have a clean install to fall back on. You can You can COPY (NOT move or rename) the backup files back to what they were and be back to your clean install without having to reinstall again. Sounds like lots of work, but you will have a clean install and a back up clean install when you are finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeTora Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 Oh, yay! Uninstall and reinstall worked. Thanks, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeTora Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 *sigh.* Never mind.. I patched and all the sudden it started doing the same thing again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 It was OK until you patched? Then I would suspect that you may be using the wrong patch. If you got your game through a download such as D2D, You have to go to them for any patches. The ones at the official site will not work because of the D2D copy protection. Programs like OBSE will probably not work because of the D2D copy protection. If you have a pirate version, sorry about your luck. Don't be so cheap, buy the game. If you have the Game of the Year version, you don't need a patch. To find what version you have, look in the lower left corner on the loading screen. If it shows v1.2.0416 you already have the latest patch. You only need to install the latest patch, v1.2.0416, all of the stuff from earlier patches are included. If you have Shivering Isles, DO NOT use the Oblivion patch, ONLY use the latest Shivering Isles patch. All of the oblivion stuff is included. There is only one English version SI patch for both US & UK versions. If you DO NOT have Shivering Isles, use only the latest Oblivion patch for the language version on your original install disk. Be sure to get your patch from the official Bethesda site where they have FREE patches for every language version, There are 2 English versions, UK & US be sure to get the one that matches your disk. Bethesda site: http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patches.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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