lostami Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) Okay I am getting random freezes that I had to end my skyrims in task manager to solve as of late, some times I even get a rare endless loadscreen.I have no idea what the issues is except that it's not the 3GB limit on RAM.The freezes happen a lot but mostly happen when spells or shouts are being used, though got always, not always being often enough I question if spells or shouts have anything to do with it.I am willing to provide all requested logs, list, or data needed to help me find the issue.I have:TES 5 Edit (but no idea how to use it for anything but cleaning my main ESM files for the default game.Wrye Bash (no idea if that helps)Nexus mod manager ( so i can get a load order list.) I can likely get other programs if needed.Please advise, I will start off with a simple load order in spoiler tags. Reveal hidden contents GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1GameOfThronesArmors.esm=1JSwords.esm=1More Interactive Items.ESM=1More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM=1More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM=1NewStyleEyes.esm=1OBlHairFinal.esm=1FixedEyeAdaption.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens CBBE One esp.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1Thundering Shouts.esp=1Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=0StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=0StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=0Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1GypsyEyesCaravan.esp=1NamedSoulGems.esp=1Real Clouds.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Statues.esp=1Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=1Footprints.esp=1JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=0RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Alduin's son.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Earrings Set1.esp=1EliteKnightArmor.esp=1Gifted Armor.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1imp_helm.esp=1imp_helm_dawn.esp=1JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1LPotD Armor.esp=1LpotDHorse.esp=1MaskofBlades.esp=1Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp=1MegaShields.esp=1OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp=1R18Pn - Astaroth Suit.esp=1StarExpandedJewelry.esp=1TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1TERA Weapons.esp=1Thanatos Dragonx.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1SKY.esp=1SolitudeSKY.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1NoAutoSkillBooks(Normal).esp=1noBlurDOF.esp=1NPCsMoveatPlayerSpeed.esp=1SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp=1SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp=1SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1Chemistry.esp=1chfshImbuedSword.esp=1ActionPoser.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1PinupsMen.esp=1Pinups4.esp=1Pinups.esp=1Pinups3.esp=1Pinups2.esp=1Pinups5.esp=1vImmersiveBeds.esp=1vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp=1Brows.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp=1TairenSoulWarpaint.esp=13DNPC.esp=1Essential followers - all followers.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1WATER.esp=1WATER Plants.esp=1WATER DB.esp=1PinupsEX2.esp=1PinupsEX1.esp=1DarkElfFemaleMaleSkinsTones.esp=1HighElfSkinTones.esp=1WoodElfSkins.esp=1FemaleToMaleHelmets.esp=1Nitpickers Skjor's Gauntlets.esp=1DBBookBounds.esp=1UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp=1Konahrik_Accoutrements.esp=1zzMaidOutfits.esp=1FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1ANC-Tribal Hunt MJB BBP.esp=1ICArtifactsDelvIitems.esp=1Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp=1GDZZJJDH.esp=1360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1IHSS.esp=1Dragons no LODs.esp=1Distant Detail.esp=1PhotoShop Cell.esp=0 Edited September 24, 2013 by lostami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki1944 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) deleted at the implication of vlaka Edited September 24, 2013 by loki1944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) @ Lostami: you've got a heap of mods which I doubt have been updated in some time and possibly have conflicts.Have you run BOSS to see if some need cleaning/updating/not advised to be used and then Tes5edit for any possible load order issues?Can you provide your papyrus log just after or prior to a freeze? Edited September 24, 2013 by vlaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostami Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 (edited) It would seem there are several Papyrus logs with numbers at the end which one do you want.Also I have run BOSS several times, but I don't understand half of what it says. I get this in my BOSS log in a few places.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Update!I updated and cleaned a lot of mods here is a new load order.Freezing has... Reduced. but not by enough. Reveal hidden contents GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1GameOfThronesArmors.esm=1JSwords.esm=1More Interactive Items.ESM=1More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM=1More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM=1NewStyleEyes.esm=1OBlHairFinal.esm=1FixedEyeAdaption.esp=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens CBBE One esp.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1SplashofRain.esp=1IHSS.esp=1Thundering Shouts.esp=1Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1GypsyEyesCaravan.esp=1NamedSoulGems.esp=1Real Clouds.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Statues.esp=1Svs Super Collection Jewelry.esp=1Footprints.esp=1JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Alduin's son.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Earrings Set1.esp=1EliteKnightArmor.esp=1Gifted Armor.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1imp_helm.esp=1imp_helm_dawn.esp=1JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1konahrik_accoutrements.esp=1konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp=1konahrik_accoutrements_dpe.esp=1LPotD Armor.esp=1LpotDHorse.esp=1MaskofBlades.esp=1Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp=1MegaShields.esp=1OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp=1R18Pn - Astaroth Suit.esp=1StarExpandedJewelry.esp=1TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1TERA Weapons.esp=1Thanatos Dragonx.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1SKY.esp=1SolitudeSKY.esp=1360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp=1Distant DetailHF.esp=1Dragons no LODs.esp=1Headtracking.esp=1NoAutoSkillBooks(Normal).esp=1NPCsMoveatPlayerSpeed.esp=1SkaalKidAetaCoat.esp=1SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp=1SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp=1DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp=1Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp=1DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1Chemistry.esp=1chfshImbuedSword.esp=1ActionPoser.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1PinupsMen.esp=1Pinups4.esp=1Pinups.esp=1Pinups3.esp=1Pinups2.esp=1Pinups5.esp=1vImmersiveBeds.esp=1vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp=1Brows.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp=1TairenSoulWarpaint.esp=13DNPC.esp=1Essential followers - all followers.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1WATER.esp=1WATER Plants.esp=1WATER DG.esp=1WATER DB Waves.esp=1PinupsEX2.esp=1PinupsEX1.esp=1DarkElfFemaleMaleSkinsTones.esp=1HighElfSkinTones.esp=1WoodElfSkins.esp=1FemaleToMaleHelmets.esp=1Nitpickers Skjor's Gauntlets.esp=1DBBookBounds.esp=1UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp=1zzMaidOutfits.esp=1FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1ANC-Tribal Hunt MJB BBP.esp=1ICArtifactsDelvIitems.esp=1Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp=1GDZZJJDH.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1PhotoShop Cell.esp=0 Edited September 25, 2013 by lostami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostami Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Here is all 4 of my papyrus log after I froze and ended the skyrim process in task manager.It's just the script folding in my skyrim documents put in a zip. The freezes have started happening more often recently. Edited September 25, 2013 by lostami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostami Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 I started a new playthrough just to see, and I'm still getting constant freezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 You might be better off starting fresh and taking a look at using STEP as a basis for your mods.It's very thorough and uses updated mods and makes sure that they wont break your game etc.Make Skyrim vanilla again: http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Make_Skyrim_Vanilla_AgainSTEP GUIDE: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited AND http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.6:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostami Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 I tried STEP once... but It made my brain hurt... I never could get a grip of it.. i ended up totally screwing up my skyrim.Besides, since I know this is not a issue with the savefile itself, that means there is a conflict somewhere, and those are much easier to fix, I'd rather not throw out all i have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudius1988 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 @ lostami endless loadscreen Do you have a suit of armor or a piece of armor or what not so fit to your bodymod? Have crashing when looting. ? Enb 221? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 you need to drop the out of date mods, do mod cleaning and even then your save most likely wont work but your game will be all the more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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