Ancalagon Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Ah, I see. That makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thranduill Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 That made no sense whatsoever. Really, I'm all effin confused and such now. You contradicted your original statement of being against abortion by stating that a few years ago you voted for it. And the whole metaphysical/mystic thing was totally lost on me, seriously. Not to be rude or mean, but I take it English isn't your first language?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, I see. That makes sense to me.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am happy that Peregrine explained better my ideas.Yes English isn't my first language but I can explain myself quite well (not this time if you could not understand me...)For what concerns the " whole metaphisical/mystic thing" that "was totally lost " on you, let me explain pls. the way it happens.When 2 people are speaking, one in front of the other, they are looking in opposite directions and, as a natural consequence, they see a completely different panorama, and, as they can just speak of what they see, they describe the world in 2 totally different ways.So, if I am looking towards north , you, in front of me, are looking towardssouth: You see the sea and I see the mountain.This does not mean that you (or me ) are wrong, it just indicates our point of vue of the reality, that is both, sea and mountain.To understand correctly the whole reality we should keep looking around, and notconsidering our point of vue as the "truth".If not we will do like people on a path of a mountain who cannot agree if it is ascending or descending.So my way of looking at the world has its roots on the old way of thinking of the traditional cultures, that are now going to be destroyed by the "civilised" man.It considers the " whole" world as "holy" ( those words have the same root ) , not splitted between good and evil as we think, and as consequence it respects all forms of life, from bacteria to stones, from a carrot to a man.So, as my parents allowed myself to came in this world (pls, consider that I was aspermatozoon and an ovule) , I think it is right to allow other lives to have a possibility of manifestation. (one of the reasons I am anti abortion)As I dont want to force anybody to see the world in my way (they cannot anyway if we are not looking in the same direction), I leave up to them the right to decide for themselves, for their spermatozoa and for their ovules.(And this is the main reason why I voted pro abortion). I dont need a religion,I dont need any God,I just look at the skyand I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas the forsaken Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I am for abortion. If she didnt plan on having a baby TO BEGIN WITH, but get pregnant by accident etc and takes abortion, then its no diffrence cause it was never intended in the first place. If there is LAWS against abortion you take away the mothers choise that was already made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draighox Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 So the baby doesn't have right to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eiade Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I don't know if abortion is right or not, but I think that the woman should definitely have the choice as to what to do to her own body. As far as the baby, it is my opinion that as long as the baby is not separate from the mother's body, it is part of the mother's body. The thing about the pro-choice democrat congressmen is that they will give women the choice, but at the same time they will work to increase sexual awareness in teens, and instead of saying abstinence abstinence abstinence, they will inform teens more about condoms and other contraceptives. So it's not like pro-choice advocates approve of killing unborn babies. They will also work quite hard to reduce the number of unexpected pregnancies, which is the leading cause of abortions. CNN Factoid: The number of abortions per year has gone up 25% while Bush has been in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draighox Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 CNN Factoid: The number of abortions per year has gone up 25% while Bush has been in office.So? My friend's farting has increased by 30% while Bush has been in office. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrus Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 abortions should only be allowed if a girl under the age of concent gets pregnant a women gets raped are if a women is not mentally fit enough to cope,theres an old saying if you play with matches your gonna get burned and most of the times with couples they get pregnant by taking too many risks i dont see why a woman 24 years old in a stable relationship and mentaly stable should be allowed to abort a life. I dont like the idea of murder of any kind but if your gonna allow a woman to kill her unborn child then why not allow a cripple to die if he/she wishes to they at least can make a conscious desishion to die unlike a featus.It makes no sence murder is murder any way you look at it, i cant wait untill they invent fake wombs so that when a woman doesnt want her child at least the baby can be moved to a loving fake warm womb rather than her cold hatful one.Thats my opinion im not forcing it on anyone so please if you want to pull it aport dont make referance to my name cos i will argue my point. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malchik Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Well, everyone is entitled to a view as long as it is not forced upon those who don't agree. But don't you feel andrus that forcing someone to have a child they don't want and can't support and who probably will have no acknowledged father is a bad thing to do to the child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrus Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 fact is malchik people have facilitys like morning after pill and other contracptives that work real well its there responsabilty to take care of that.it sadens me that every time a women walks into an abortion clinic a little person dies.What if the next mega computer game was gonna be designed by that little mind are the cure for aids are the cure for death.Life is life, if they want the child they can always give it away after nine months to people that cant have children, they will love it like there own :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeemanXu Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Abortion: Such a contentious subject. I myself am for abortion. There are times and circumstances that necessatate the need for it's practise, and i believe that a woman should have the choice as to whether or not she should be allowed to terminate her pregnancy. It is a shame at-the-end-of-the-day for a life to be ended, but alas, we live in a democracy and a with that comes 'Choices'. As to what choice is made lies solely on the conscious of the participant(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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