Mod Lists Needed

[Nihilist87]

Hello!

I finished the Vanilla game 3 times now and I would want to start again, but it wouldn't hurt to enhance the game's experience a bit, using mods.
I am new to using mods for Fallout 3, so I need a bit of help.
I've gathered how much information I could on what utilities to use, mods, how to load the mods... etc.
So I've downloaded a lot of them that seemed nice to me... but I had compatibility problems, crashes, etc.

So, what I am asking here is for working (big - preferably) mod lists, some lists that you guys are using or have tested.

I would be grateful if you would post them here, and paste their order as well, and any additional information for a "noob" like me :smile:, if you like.

Thanks!
All the best!

[LXD9]

I think you'll find that anyone that has a large list of mods working together has made them that way themselves. Every time you add a mod you add potential conflict and if you are not prepared to resolve them yourself then they are not going to work well. And honestly if you learn to fix these yourself you will have a lot more fun with mods in general.

 

Barring that, you probably want to look for large mods that do a lot of changes in an integral manner, that already merge together several mods or concepts like Fallout Wanderers Edition or Fallout Overhaul Kit.

 

Fo3Edit is a tool you will need

This is a guide for it

[panzersharkcat]

Well, as always, I recommend Mothership Zeta Crew and most of its addons, as well as Puce Moose's mods.

 

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Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

StreetLights.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Lings.esm

IMCN.esm

Impervious Power Armour.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

CubeExperimental (EN).esm

GNRBuilding_BoS.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

TSC Air Support.esm

BridgeTown.esm

EVE.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Abbreviated Effects.esm

TSC Expansion.esm

Panzer's Mass Overhaul.esm

UCO-UrbanCombatOverhaul.esm

Project Genesis.esm

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

eyes_hairpack_en.esp

Auto Aim Fix v1.1.esp

KHWeaponscanner.esp

YetAnotherPurgeCellBuffersPlugin.esp

Enclave Radio Enhanced.esp

GNR Enhanced.esp

CONELRAD 640-1240.esp

Makes Sense Bounty Hunter 0.91.esp

firelance-quest.esp

HeirApparent.esp

IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

NotSoFast.esp

PLweightadjust.esp

PLFewerItems.esp

Shadows and Dust - Southwest DC - Public.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

SniperZooming.esp

MoreMapMarkers.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp

MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp

GNRBuilding_Studio.esp

NewMall.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

AER10V2 Laser Rifle.esp

AsharasBatmanItems.esp

SolarScorcher.esp

Advanced Recon Range Finder.esp

Dragonskin Tactical Outfit.esp

DragonskinBonusPack.esp

AutoGates.esp

KarmaRevampExtreme1010.esp

VanishingPiles.esp

EVE.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Sydney Follower.esp

resetfollowers_v3.3.esp

Imp's More Complex Needs.esp

IMCN - 5 DLC Merged.esp

IMCN - MMM Meats, Bloods, and Eyeballs.esp

Attentater's Wasteland Economy.esp

FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

Hacking Cheat.esp

I'll Touch What I Want.esp

ShellRain.esp

100% Speech.esp

TenpennyGhoulsAtPeace.esp

HT Don't Pickup Weapons.esp

Realistic Death Physics.esp

Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp

Fellout-Full.esp

Fellout-Anchorage.esp

Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp

Fellout-PointLookout.esp

Fellout-Zeta.esp

xCALIBRammo_override.esp

Fellout Brighter Nights.esp

TrentonTowers.esp

MZC - Sergeant RL-3 TSC.esp

MZC - Dogmeat TSC.esp

MZC - Fawkes_no mask.esp

HT xCALIBR Bullet Physics.esp

Mothership Crew Clothing addon.esp

Shadows and Dust - Volume 2.esp

100% Force Lock Chance.esp

Nerves_of_Steel_Fix_4AP.esp

Find Ingots.esp

FasterWaiting.esp

HT Unlimited Ammo.esp

PointLookout_lesstraveltime-3to5days.esp

HolyWaterPamphletsDisabler.esp

WaterBeggarScriptFix - BS.esp

Project Beauty- Vault 101 Revisited.esp

Joker4.esp

SkillBooks.esp

ModestSet.esp

Advanced Alien Blaster.esp

Alternate_Level_Perks_2.esp

Bobbleheads.esp

Citadel Upgrade.esp

Sword.esp

BetterTalons.esp

RegulatorHQRedesigned.esp

BoS Outpost-NW Outskirts Bridge.esp

MZC-NPC-Tyranid-Xenomorph.esp

Higher Vehicle Health.esp

LightSaberMod.esp

CitadelApartment.esp

Baby Marie.esp

Banks of the Wasteland Expanded.esp

Aliens Pulse Rifle.esp

Millenia_C96_replacer.esp

Millenia_AK47_replacer.esp

Millenia_CombatShotgun_replacer.esp

TSC Air Support.esp

Mothership Crew Weapon Addon TSC.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

CASM.esp

Laurens_Bathroom_poetry_V1.esp

PersonalTerminal.esp

Selective Fire.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey - Zeta addon.esp

Tenpenny Suite.esp

Burnification.esp

1PipboyPDA.esp

MZC Addon - MZC-IMCN Patch.esp

The Groovatron.esp

The Groovatron_DLC_Anch_Addon.esp

The Groovatron_DLC_Pitt_Addon.esp

The Groovatron_DLC_PL_Addon.esp

MyMegaton-AmmoPress-Calibr-Plus-Unlocked_v1_21_18605.esp

JeffersonMemorialREDUX.esp

WhoNeedsPaTraining.esp

UCO-FOBs.esp

UCO-The Mall.esp

UCOHotfix1.esp

IMCN - Puce Moose Merged.esp

TSC - 101 Revisited.esp

TSC - 112.esp

TSC Prospecting.esp

TSC Oasis.esp

TSC Propaganda Revised.esp

TSC - Scientific Rediscovery.esp

The5 Visors Mod F3.esp

TSC New Quarters.esp

MZC Addon - Easier TSC Support.esp

MZC - Personal Terminal.esp

MZC - Merged Things.esp

PMO - Merged.esp

JHBSydneyUpdate.esp

Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp

Total active plugins: 170

Total plugins: 173

Inactive plugins:

Mothership Crew - Novus Imperium Romanum.esp

Panzer's Mass Overhaul.esp

PMO - Project Genesis Patch.esp

I'm building the Project Genesis patch at the moment. Once I get that and a working longer flamer projectile, I'll upload. I'll probably upload in the next week if I can't get the latter to work. Mothership Crew - Novus Imperium Romanum.esp is an addon I'm working on for Mothership Zeta Crew. Original .esp file that will be converted to a master file. Same with Panzer's Mass Overhaul.esp.

[Nihilist87]

Thank you very much guys!

to LXD9:

So, I took your advice, and tried to make a 3rd mod list...
This time I downloaded only the most endorsed ones, and suited for my needs.

I don't have so many problems than before, but still...
I get random freezes/crashes when:
1. I launch the game
2. Sometimes when I load a saved game
3. Now and then, when I fast travel
4. Sometimes I have crashes after I use explosives to unlock doors...

Another thing that I've noticed is that the Vault 101 mod did not work... it was the same as in the original Fallout.

I will post my mod list here, maybe you can make some suggestions or give me some tips.

So, here it is:

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] FOOK2 - Main.ESM

[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM

[X] TalonExtraArmor.esm

[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

[X] Alton, IL.esm

[X] Sydney Follower.esp

[X] xCALIBR.esm

[X] Vault 101 Revisited.esm

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm

[X] TheInstitute.esm

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] FOOK2 - Main.esp

[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp

[X] FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp

[X] FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

[X] RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp

[X] Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp

[ ] Compatibility Plugin00 TalonCo & Marts.esp

[ ] Compatibility Plugin01 PunisherGear & TalonCo.esp

[X] ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp

[X] Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

[X] BlackWolf Backpack.esp

[X] BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

[X] BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

[X] FO3 Error Fixes.esp

[X] xCALIBRammo_override.esp

[ ] xCALIBRammo_FWE.esp

[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp

[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp

[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp

[X] JessiCompanion.esp

[X] LucyWestCompanion.esp

[X] FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

[X] NotSoFast.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Combat.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Medical.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - XP.esp

[X] CALIBRxMerchant.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - SkillBooks.esp

[X] The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

[X] HeirApparent.esp

[X] AltonAddon.esp

[Nihilist87]

To panzersharkcat:
Wow, that's one huge list... :)
Thank you very much for that!

When I will start over I will try it for sure.

All the best, guys!

[panzersharkcat]

Vault 101 Revisited doesn't trigger until you complete the Trouble on the Homefront. It only adds one extra room near the Overseer's office. There's Escape! Redux but I uninstalled it. You might also want to use FO3Edit to flag Puce Moose's stuff as master files. It greatly improves their stability.

[LXD9]

I didn't see anyone mention whether you were using BOSS or not.

http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/10193/?

That will help sort you esp's your mantis imperative esps's don't appear to be in the correct order, not sure if there is a 'correct' order though.

 

Also you should try turning off the auto saves, they will cause crashes.

 

I only use some of the mods you have listed so I can only comment on those. The Institute, Mantis Imperative, and Arefu expanded all caused problems for me. Which isn't to say they are bad mods, I enjoyed all of them, but it took some fo3 edit work to get them to not crash. Arefu expanded caused some corrupted saves, don't save anywhere near there while that mod is active. I actually just got passed a bugged spot in one of the quests there I had never been able to finish, I think it was hanging up on a conflict in the initial greeting dialog that i just fixed in all my mods.

 

But just running your mods through the Fo3edit cleaning process will help alot

 

You also might want to try out the updated Unofficial Fo3 patch

http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/19122/?

[acelogan]

  On 9/29/2013 at 4:47 PM, LXD9 said:

I didn't see anyone mention whether you were using BOSS or not.

I actually stopped using BOSS because it would screw up my meticulously personalized load order, and didn't always suggest the best LO anyhow. Every single time I installed something and then ran BOSS I'd have to spend lots of time putting specific mods back to where they needed to go to avoid conflicts; such a pain.

 

@Nihilist87 I do, however, agree with the suggestion of turning off the vanilla autosave in the games settiings - I use the CASM mod (http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/3729//?) instead and it works quite well, and has custom settings to adjust to your tastes.

 

I've been using mods off and on for a few years, and I still haven't quite figured out the best LO every time. Right now I'm currently trying to weed out why my game crashes occasionally when I read Skill books.

Edited September 30, 2013 by acelogan

[Nihilist87]

No, I'm not using BOSS.
Maybe I'll check it out...

But first I will disable the autosaves, because I haven't done that.
And I can also delete the Arefu Expanded mod as well, if you say it can cause problems, and I don't find it so great either.

And yes, I ran my mods through FO3 Edit, had to delete 3 mods, and then I got no errors.

Thank you guys!

[acelogan]

  On 10/1/2013 at 3:15 PM, Nihilist87 said:

No, I'm not using BOSS.

Maybe I'll check it out...

 

But first I will disable the autosaves, because I haven't done that.

And I can also delete the Arefu Expanded mod as well, if you say it can cause problems, and I don't find it so great either.

 

And yes, I ran my mods through FO3 Edit, had to delete 3 mods, and then I got no errors.

 

Thank you guys!

BOSS can be sort-of useful for seeing incompatibilities or script erros, but I have yet to learn how to use that to improve my load order or "repair" my mods. They (the devs behind BOSS) say that they maintain a fairly thorough list of mods and compatabilities, and yet many of the very popular mods are still not recognised by it - and I have sent them the links and information on many of them many times, over the years... yet they remain unrecognised. So I thinki it's not exactly hilghly dependable a tool as people say it is.

 

Why did you delete those mods; where there errors or incompatibilities?

Edited October 4, 2013 by acelogan