NPCs vibrate when firing a bow... but only sometimes... help please

[Hamblepants]

Re-posting from reddit:

 

- https://modwat.ch/u/hamblepants
- https://loadorderlibrary.com/lists/npc-bow-bug
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Sometimes NPCs will vibrate rapidly back and forth in one spot, exclusively when trying to fire a bow, but this only happens sometimes.

Sometimes I'll watch an NPC do the vibrate bug, then reload the game and go back to the same spot and watch the same fight get started and they won't bug out. Then i'll reload and repeat a few times, no problem, then like the 4th or 5th time they'll bug out. It'll happen to the same NPC if I do enough tests, but it won't repeatedly and consistently happen to the same NPC - but someone will eventually start bugging out after enough testing. These are NPCs who are either vanilla or not, using all different kinds of equipment.

I've tried troubleshooting it for 5-6+ hours, disabling many animation mods, combat mods, bow/arrow mesh mods, rerunning nemesis dozens of times, searching forums for mods I use to see if anyone else has encountered this, binary searching for the issue (disabling mods in batches), no luck so far.

Any help would be great.

[Supersaiyangoku84]

try it with Fnis instead of nemisis thats what i use afterall never had a problem

[Hamblepants]

Its a good idea, ive tried it without nemesis or any nemesis related mods, still happens tho :/

[Hamblepants]

Am dumb - forgot to disable the mod folder with my nemesis output. Trying now with ALL (hopefully lol) of nemesis and its dependencies disabled.

[Hamblepants]

Even w nemesis and its output and all dependent mods disabled, still getting it :/ .