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Hi there!

 

A day of 5 ago I installed some mods, upgraded the Sharpshooters V3 enb and all the other mods and it was working like a charm. I've also installed the ugrid stability mod and changed Ugridstoload to 7.

 

The last two days however, I'm encountering a lot of problems. I've been encountering a lot of random CTD's and freezes. Sometimes when I am browsing trough the menu when trading with a merchant, sometimes when I'm exploring. A couple of days ago, I've cleaned everything with TES5edit according to the guide.

 

I did not change my graphic cards drivers and all my PC temperatures are pretty good. I did change my Ati Overdrive settings a couple of days ago until it was stable. The temperatures are good know, I don't get any artifacts or anything, but 2 days ago I did get a BSOD, probably because the energy settings in Ati Overdrive were +20%. I've dropped that to +20%. The temperatures of my graphics card are 25 degrees celcius idle, and max 55 degrees celcius when at full load in Skyrim.

 

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Running out of VRAM dude, when you hit a merchant the graphics need to load for each item, when you're running along the road you're loading a heap of graphics. It's right there on your performance monitor report.

 

Look at the graph, you're at max vram, wouldn't take much to crash it.

 

I use 2gb myself and I know this to be true. Not sure if you're using the Skyrim 2k mod, but... don't :wink:

 

I use it for Skyrim HD 2k - dungeons only - perfectly stable with that.

 

ugrids 7 isn't your friend either tbh, you will still experience SOME (although a lot less than skyrim 2k) crashes with ugrids 7, I'd go to 5 if I were you.

 

 

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(Some of those are mods I only have here locally and aren't on nexus).

 

I run all of that without incident on 8gb ram and 2gb vram. No problem.

 

I get the odd crash, but it's fairly rare. I know if I want I can ride from whiterun to any city 99% certain I won't be crashing - I use the autosave manager to help me for the rare instances that I do.

 

I can even fraps if I need or want to.

 

I generally get 60fps solid indoors anywhere, 30-50 (usually mid 40's) outdoors anywhere.

 

Hope that helps.

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Thanks for your reply!

 

Strange thing is, I've been recording my performances with SPM quite a while, and I've been using all of my VRAM for about 3 weeks now and everything has worked for weeks. Why should it give me problems now? I've been using all of the Skyrim 2K HD graphics for about a year also :smile:

 

I've been playing almost 6 months with ugrids=9 before Dragonborn, but turned it down to 5 when Dragonborn gave problems when I installed it. I recently saw there was a mod which would make the use of ugrids=7 (and the rest) more stable. I like it since I really like making beautiful screenshots. But ugrids can't be the problem when loading the merchants menu?

 

Could it be the savefile is messed up for some reason? I'll try playing a savefile from previous week.

 

I do get 60FPS inside (some drops with a lot of candles due too ENB) and 35-50 outside, sometimes slightly around 28 when there is heavy fog :smile: Before all this mess, I even can't remember the last crash/freeze/CTD/etc. :(

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Yeah the engine for skyrim has some serious IO issues, while using VRAM might do ok - I'm guessing you have an SSD ? When skyrim caches something it cannot keep in ram it will do a bunch of (really) unnecessary IO - Skyrim has a lot of issues when reading in data too fast.

 

(That ENB Boost I linked fixes some of this I believe).

 

There was a bug I had a week or so ago because I had installed the ENB BOOST and i was running at around 160fps in dungeons, lol. Skyrim craps itself at that point and starts putting you underwater and all kinds of weird stuff :wink:

 

Fixed it by working out where the vsync was for enb (I had turned it on in skyrim, but the enb had overridden it and turned it back off).

 

So that limited me to 60fps which was fine for the IO. Your card is also faster than mine, i'd imagine, so that might also be in your favor - however, I still think running at your memory limit is going to give you issues. It's not the card's fault or any given mod - moreso the engine - especially with ugrids turned way the f*** up - you are bound to crash at that point if you're trying to PLAY that way. Might be ok to just change the ugrids once you get a good screenshot ready to go - but I still also think you need 3gb card to run Skyrim HD 2k with reasonable stability.

 

Yeah that new mod is awesome, you can turn it up for screenies without having to leave skyrim and mess with saves or ini files - golden.

 

This is me galloping from Riften to Windhelm (almost all the way) before saving - there's a fair bit of vegetation in that area.

 

 

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Oh also check out these:

DDSOpt

SMCO

 

from the DDSOpt Page:

This is what it can do to the Skyrim-Textures and Mods:
Skyrim - Textures/ 2383177381 -> 2242262835 94.8%
Better Dwemer/ 232233284 -> 178661228 76.9%
Skyrim HD/ 1389453680 -> 1400638264 100.8% ("lots" of missing mip-maps) <-----

 

Edit: Use SMCO - it is multi-threaded and takes about 10% of the time ;)

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Thanks for your posts!

 

I've been playing yesterday without any problems, I dropped my gpu voltage and strange enough the VRAM-usage dropped? The temperatures are still max 60, so that's good :smile:

 

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Thanks for your links, I will try it soon! :smile:

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Along with thefinn's suggestions, I would recommend installing HiAlgoBoost and Skyrim Acceleration Layer. I recently had issues in which I would freeze every two minutes by merely rotating too quickly, but now I can fly around in exterior cells with the "tcl" console command at 1500 speed multiplier with absolute smoothness. It's at least worth a try :smile:

Also, I would recommend downgrading the Skyrim HD texture mod to the lite version. Unless you have superhuman eyesight, there is a negligible loss in quality.

Best wishes for your Skyrim stability :D

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