HELP! VH:Bloodlines ---> CTD

[enki666]

I installed VH:Bloodlines few days ago (without the Better Cities patch) and the game loads fine. But everytime i fast travel to the imperial city, the game will CTD.

 

I realised i hadn't installed the Better Cities patch for VHB. So i deactivated BC and reactivated it again to auto-install the VHB patch. But with the VHB patch installed, the game won't even load! CTD happens before the loading bar starts moving. :sad:

 

Here's my load order. All mods have been cleaned with TES4Edit. The general LO recommended by BOSS has been adhered to except for some minor changes. I have put some comments by the side to explain why, please read them carefully:

 

 

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Windfall.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.5]
04  HorseCombatMaster.esm
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.2]
06  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
07  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
08  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.1]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
++  toothman's funny loadscreens.esp
0C  PowerAttack Voicemod - The Shivering Isles.esp  [Version v1.32]
0D  Blackpowder_bombs v04.esp
0E  GoldnSilverBars.esp
0F  HeresATip.esp
10  Ls Rentable Player Homes.esp
11  Posters.esp
12  Unlimited Weapon Recharge.esp
**  VA_BetterGold.esp
13  Crowded Cities 15.esp
14  NPCsTravel.esp
15  77_Umpa_Mp3_Player_obse.esp  [Version 0.76]
16  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
17  Spell Delete.esp
18  UnidirectionalAttack.esp
19  AddMapMarkers.esp
1A  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]
1B  DLCVileLair.esp
1C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
1D  See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp
1E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1F  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
20  1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp
21  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp
22  Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs.esp
++  Adonnays Elven Weaponry for NPCs - Vanilla placement.esp
23  AC2 Revisited HGEC.esp
++  BladeofWoeReplacer9Tongues.esp
24  Classic Books.esp
25  JQ-Amulets.esp
26  RingwraithArmorDaedric.esp
27  strotisNewFood.esp
28  XSPipeMod.esp  [Version 1.2]
29  DarkWindarmor1.esp
2A  Hentai_Juliet_Uniform.esp
2B  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
2C  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp  [Version 2.03]
2D  AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp
2E  Anduril Reforged.esp
2F  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.21]
30  BDBS - Chapel Memorial.esp  [Version 3.21]
31  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
32  JQ-AssassinQuest.esp
33  coffeeshop.esp
34  JQ-PizzaShop.esp
35  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
36  DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp
37  strotisAyleidClutter.esp
38  Tavern-Goers 2.esp
39  tchos' breakfast food.esp
3A  The Duelists.esp
3B  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
3C  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
3D  Windfall.esp
3E  Knights.esp
3F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
40  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.Non-COBL]
41  Rumare-AFK_Weye Patch.esp  [Version 2.2]
42  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp  [Version 1.1]
43  HackdirtAlive.esp
44  Better Dungeons.esp
45  BFG's Open All the Gates.esp
46  GodStatues KOTN Edition.esp
47  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp
48  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp
49  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
4A  Better Thiefloot.esp
4B  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]
4C  FameAndInfamyAnnouncer.esp
4D  CombatFPSOptimizer.esp
4E  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
4F  personality_idles4.esp ------------------------------------> MAO's readme says to put all anim mods together. The original LO for this was way higher but the anims wouldn't play until i moved it here.
50  DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
**  Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
51  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
52  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.5]
53  Better cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
54  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
55  Think to Yourself.esp
**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp
56  Li-Glassphials.esp
**  GW71_Life_Detect.esp
57  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp -------------> as per MAO readme
58  Streamline 3.1.esp ----------------------------> as per MAO readme
59  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
-------------------------------------------------------> mods 5A to 65 are not recognized by BOSS so i put them all after the bashed patch
5A  Mythic Dawn Armor.esp
5B  30EnemyHealthBartimer.esp
5C  DJS_Realistic_Creatures.esp
5D  The Sixth Element - no willpower.esp
5E  Purple Shock Spells.esp
5F  Awesome Book Resources.esp
60  Elder Council Chambers.esp
61  UsefulClutter.esp
62  Weed AND Beer inebriation 1.4.esp  [Version 1.4]
63  Necrofurntest.esp
64  Xia_Pillow_Mesh_Set.esp
65  LunasBunniesForSale.esp
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66  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.4] ---------------------------------> putting this with the better cities esps above (between 52-53) will cause a huge tear in the market district (with a mesage to adjust LO)
67  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.2.1]
68  Highwood.esp-----------------------> putting this in the BOSS-recommended LO (before bashed patch) will prevent the bashed patch from completing successfully :confused:
69  Forest Shack by Kelly.esp --------------> my custom house is based on this mod, again not BOSS-recognised so i placed it here
6A  Asenath.esp ----------------> my own ESP for all the custom armors/weapons/spells i put into the game, placed it near the end to minimise conflict
6B  Bloody_Mess.esp -------------> with the BOSS-recommended LO the mod would stop working sometimes . But even though i placed it here, the mod hasn't been working for quite some time now  :confused:
6C  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp -----------> placed all DR esps at the end to avoid conflict
6D  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
6E  DRMythicDawnArmorfix.esp

 

I tried reactivating BC (with the VHB patch) but WITHOUT using the IC districts and it didn't made a difference.

Guys, I'm running out of ideas and i really really want to start playing Bloodlines! Looks really interesting and heard so many good things about the mod.

 

Any suggestions are welcome! Thanks :smile:

[discovery1]

I have never had a problem with vb (are you using the fixed version?)

However when i installed the latest better cities, the game would not load, i found that the bc vb patch had to load almost last in the order and the bashed patch below that. I am not an expert on load orders like some people but that fixed it for me. Good luck.

[enki666]

Yes! I'm using the fixed version by Arthmoor. Would it make a dfference if i switched to the original ver?

 

Thanks for the tip! I'll try playing around with the LO tmr

 

Any other ideas, people? I'm open to all suggestions! :)

[shinobi2008]

Did you rebuild the bashed patch after reactivating BBC and VH? If the mods you have installed are not recognized by BOSS, it's because there's no dedicated person to update the masterlist at the moment. What you need to do is use the BOSS Userlist Manager and make your custom rules for that particular mod. Rule of thumb is that all mods must be loaded before bashed patch unless specified by the author of that mod i.e MOO or Deadly Reflex (?). Also when you deactivate BBC you have to make a clean save before doing that otherwise you'll experience some issues especially if you toggled the open cities on. I would suggest load the previous save with BBC active then load the game with that save. Bring up console and then type coc testinghall. This is the most safest place to do a clean save on. Save the game, exit and then deactivate the BBC. Be sure to rebuild the bashed patch and then launch the game. Save and exit. Now you have a clean save without BBC and now you can make some changes. Of course, when you deactivate BBC all other mods that depend on it have to be deactivated as well or the game will complain.