SS2 with severe script lag/script freezing issue, and it's causing the quests to be uncompletable.

[ThePeskyMolerat]

I'm not sure how to explain it, but for some reason the scripts for SS2 when in a quest freeze and Jake isn't able to do certain sequences. He just stands there, doing nothing. The only fix I found was a patch job, I would need to enter and exit the interior cell or fast travel to the location to reset it, and that worked for the first few quests, but now even that isn't working. It got seriously bad when I tried to do the vault tec Comm Hub quest, where sometimes it wouldn't make him do the sequence and sometimes it did.

And then when I entered the point where we enter the basement, the problem occurred again only now the fix doesn't work and he just stands there. Meaning that the quest can't be completed.

 

Please, I just need to know how to fix it.

 

My load order is below if that helps.

 

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254 FE 18 SelectGuitars.esl

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254 FE 23 NoTwigs.esp

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24 18 QuickTrade.esp

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254 FE 26 Seriousreconscope.esp

254 FE 27 Makeshifttextures.esp

254 FE 28 Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp

254 FE 29 Lots More Facial Hair.esp

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254 FE 2b HiPolyFaces.esp

254 FE 2c CBBE.esp

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31 1f ECO.esp

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33 21 Ketaros_Treasures.esp

34 22 KetPatch01.esp

35 23 3DNPC_FO4.esp

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37 25 MutilatedDeadBodies.esp

38 26 OutcastsAndRemnants.esp

39 27 90sgame.esp

40 28 MojaveImports.esp

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42 2a ValentineCases.esp

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47 2f CSEPAllAmericans.esp

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49 31 PD_LowerWeapon.esp

254 FE 30 WheelMenu.esp

254 FE 31 LooksMenu.esp

254 FE 32 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp

254 FE 33 SS2_XDI Patch.esp

50 32 MWHitFx.esp

254 FE 34 Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp

254 FE 35 Invisible Armors.esp

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254 FE 36 TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp

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53 35 Be Exceptional.esp

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254 FE 38 ImmersiveAnimationFramework.esp

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62 3e ModularHumvee2020.esp

63 3f InstituteSettlements2.esp

64 40 funfair.esp

254 FE 3c WorldCars4.esp

65 41 CheatTerminal.esp

66 42 Children of Ug Qualtoth.esp

67 43 Eli_Rockin Red Rocket.esp

68 44 Flashy_CrimeAndPunishment_GunForHire_Addon.esp

69 45 Skb_RiflesRebirth.esp

254 FE 3d TacticalReloadDLC.esp

70 46 Backpacks of the Commonwealth.esp

71 47 SS2_FDK_TinyLiving.esp

72 48 MilitarizedMinutemen.esp

73 49 MWRam7.esp

254 FE 3e CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp

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77 4d powerarmort49.esp

78 4e ProjectValkyrie.esp

79 4f UltracitePA.esp

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81 51 PiP-Boy2000.esp

82 52 LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp

83 53 Minuteman Watchtowers.esp

84 54 WZXM4.esp

85 55 LimaOutpost.esp

86 56 OldTimeReligion.esp

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88 58 ChinaLakeandHolorifle.esp

254 FE 40 CROSS_MojaveManhunter.esp

89 59 Zanthir_MinigunReplacer.esp

254 FE 41 RAW INPUT.esp

254 FE 42 Elzee Recoil Shake.esp

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91 5b F4NV-N99.esp

254 FE 43 IWGlory.esp

254 FE 44 Power Armor HUD Switcher.esp

92 5c DaksCombatRifle.esp

93 5d ImiGalil.esp

94 5e MG69.esp

254 FE 45 Improved - Animated Accessible Backpack.esp

254 FE 46 T6M_PerksPack.esp

95 5f VAFS Redux.esp

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254 FE 48 NeoClassicNukaCola.esp

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97 61 1CAS_ServiceRifle.esp

254 FE 49 MW2R_M4A1.esp

98 62 IOD_Merc_Gear.esp

99 63 Escape from Boston - Springfield M14.esp

Be Exceptional - Uninstall.esp

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254 FE 52 You Talk Too Much.esp

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121 79 Wana_SA58.esp

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254 FE 55 SS2_BleachersDCStory_Patch.esp

126 7e ellen.esp

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127 7f Miami Misadventures EP1.esp

254 FE 57 FarHarborCars.esp

128 80 llamaCompanionHeatherv2.esp

129 81 RRTV_UndergroundHideout_Redux.esp

130 82 EM2.esp

131 83 [sS2 Addon] SimSettlements SuperStructures.esp

254 FE 58 RGM40.esp

132 84 SkyrimInspiredPowerArmor.esp

133 85 Heavy BoS.esp

134 86 StealthSuitDrk.esp

254 FE 59 OldTimeReligion-Legendary.esp

135 87 BullpupBozar.esp

136 88 _00Stingray.esp

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139 8b TacticalCourser.esp

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254 FE 5f MogomraPAMs_MPAM_AWKCR Patch.esp

254 FE 60 3dscopes-bullpupbozar.esp

254 FE 61 3dscopes-classicsniper.esp

140 8c Driveable Motorcycle Mod.esp

141 8d HuntingRevolver.esp

142 8e CAPA.esp

143 8f FnScar.esp

144 90 shoddymemone.esp

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146 92 ExcavatorPA.esp

147 93 G3Family.esp

148 94 MiscOutfitPackv2.esp

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254 FE 64 3dscopes-wattz.esp

254 FE 65 3dscopes-wmsr.esp

149 95 Enclave-X02.esp

150 96 Hellfirenew.esp

151 97 F4CW10mmSMG.esp

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254 FE 67 ChinaLake_1.5xDamage.esp

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155 9b HKUSP9mm.esp

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254 FE 6d AX50_by_tooun.esp

254 FE 6e AX50_by_tooun_TR_patch.esp

254 FE 6f MAIM 2 - EZ Keywords.esp

254 FE 70 MAIM 2 - Point Lookout.esp

254 FE 71 MAIM 2 - Lite.esp

MAIM 2 - Stimpaks Help You Breathe Patch.esp

254 FE 72 IAF - Far Harbor & Nuka World.esp

254 FE 73 ConditionBoy.esp

156 9c QBZ191.esp

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157 9d MWEagle.esp

158 9e MWMpapa5.esp

254 FE 75 ArmorPlate.esp

159 9f MilitarisedMinutemen_PatchesAddon.esp

160 a0 SKKVertibirdWorldTravel.esp

161 a1 Scavver's Backpacks.esp

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162 a2 LooksMirror.esp

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164 a4 octi_taticaloutfit.esp

165 a5 The Eyes Of Beauty.esp

166 a6 ChairFace.esp

254 FE 78 IWPiper.esp

254 FE 79 IWCait.esp

254 FE 7a Natural Curie - Subtle Tweaks.esp

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168 a8 cVc Dead Wasteland 6 DLC2.esp

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172 ac EvilViking13_MinutemenMorale.esp

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179 b3 VtawScientist.esp

180 b4 FOLON_Arthur_Outfit.esp

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182 b6 WastelandCodex.esp

254 FE 7e XM2010_SniperRifle_by_tooun.esp

254 FE 7f XM2010_SniperRifle_TR_patch.esp

254 FE 80 PA-Quick Animations.esp

254 FE 81 PiP-Boy2000_LMCC.esp

254 FE 82 PiP-Boy2000_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp

183 b7 StartMeUp.esp

254 FE 83 BostonFPSFixAIO.esp

184 b8 Eli_Faction Housing Overhaul - AiO.esp

[nzukowski]

I think the issue is that you are trying to run SS2 with a number of very script heavy mods at the same time (Depravity, Fusion City, Valkyrie..etc).

 

There is a list of known mod conflicts on the SS2 website: https://wiki.simsettlements2.com/en/getting-started/known-issues

 

I would also check out: https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/solutions-for-the-most-common-problems.14758/page-2

 

I also had an issue where Jake wouldn't start his sequence of using the terminal during the Vault tec com hub quest. The solution I found was when you first enter the building allow the ferals to attack Jake for a few seconds before killing them.

Edited July 8, 2022 by nzukowski

[ThePeskyMolerat]

I think the issue is that you are trying to run SS2 with a number of very script heavy mods at the same time (Depravity, Fusion City, Valkyrie..etc).

 

There is a list of known mod conflicts on the SS2 website: https://wiki.simsettlements2.com/en/getting-started/known-issues

 

I would also check out: https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/solutions-for-the-most-common-problems.14758/page-2

 

I also had an issue where Jake wouldn't start his sequence of using the terminal during the Vault tec com hub quest. The solution I found was when you first enter the building allow the ferals to attack Jake for a few seconds before killing them.

Is there any way to reduce script lag while keeping those mods or is it just too much for the engine/game to handle?

[nzukowski]

I think it's just to much for the game to handle, but I would ask the people on the Sim Settlements forum about this before I started ripping out individual mods (they know a lot more about this than I do).

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/on-the-nature-of-script-lag.20376/

 

This is the best explanation I've been able to find about script lag. It also mentions that there are circumstances when having the player just sort of stare at their own feet can help with script lag issues. However I don't know how big of an effect that this has or whether it would be enough for a specific load order.

[Guest deleted34304850]

ha, look at that load order, then ask yourself - why is my game choking?

seriously.

[ThePeskyMolerat]

ha, look at that load order, then ask yourself - why is my game choking?

seriously.

I like heavier load orders. I just bypass the needed restrictions and I can get mods.

 

BrandyBoy does it. Don't see why I shouldn't either.

 

If you're not going to be of any help, I'd recommend moving on. Plain and simple.

Edited July 10, 2022 by ThePeskyMolerat

[ThePeskyMolerat]

I think it's just to much for the game to handle, but I would ask the people on the Sim Settlements forum about this before I started ripping out individual mods (they know a lot more about this than I do).

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/on-the-nature-of-script-lag.20376/

 

This is the best explanation I've been able to find about script lag. It also mentions that there are circumstances when having the player just sort of stare at their own feet can help with script lag issues. However I don't know how big of an effect that this has or whether it would be enough for a specific load order.

Ok, tried that but none of those suggestions don't work.

 

Side note, I recognized that the game doesn't detect that it is modded when it is. Could that have something to do with it?

[ThePeskyMolerat]

I think it's just to much for the game to handle, but I would ask the people on the Sim Settlements forum about this before I started ripping out individual mods (they know a lot more about this than I do).

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/on-the-nature-of-script-lag.20376/

 

This is the best explanation I've been able to find about script lag. It also mentions that there are circumstances when having the player just sort of stare at their own feet can help with script lag issues. However I don't know how big of an effect that this has or whether it would be enough for a specific load order.

 

At this point, I'm just going to go ahead and delete a few of the script heavy mods. I have to learn the games limits a bit better.

[Guest deleted34304850]

 

I think it's just to much for the game to handle, but I would ask the people on the Sim Settlements forum about this before I started ripping out individual mods (they know a lot more about this than I do).

 

https://simsettlements.com/site/index.php?threads/on-the-nature-of-script-lag.20376/

 

This is the best explanation I've been able to find about script lag. It also mentions that there are circumstances when having the player just sort of stare at their own feet can help with script lag issues. However I don't know how big of an effect that this has or whether it would be enough for a specific load order.

 

At this point, I'm just going to go ahead and delete a few of the script heavy mods. I have to learn the games limits a bit better.

 

you're welcome.