The next gen gpu battle of the ages...

[Thor.]

Very disappointing specifications from Nvidia, i expected better from you, Good thing i waited until there was specs floating around. It looks like a rebranded 780 sigh.

 

Atleast amd did something unique for a change.

 

[Rennn]

Renn, GPU phsyics can be done with OpenCL; which will work with both GPU vendors. Example 'ere.

 

 

I know that, and if OpenCL ever gets used in many games, I'll support it.

Right now, PhysX is the only widespread advanced physics solution, which is exactly why I said it's too much to lose.

[Thor.]

This next gen battle is a no brainer this time around.

ANNDD specifications for the amd r290x

 

http://www.hardcoreware.net/amd-radeon-r290x-hawaii-leak/

AMD has a lower memory clock then the 6000mhz that is Nvidia, but the 512bit bus speed and core count still uknown.

Edited October 23, 2013 by Thor.

[kalikka]

290x wins the round this time, better performance than titan with half the price.

Although the reference cooler is so craptastic that you better wait for DC2/Windforce (95C load...).

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html

Edited October 24, 2013 by kalikka

[FiftyTifty]

 

I know that, and if OpenCL ever gets used in many games, I'll support it.

Right now, PhysX is the only widespread advanced physics solution, which is exactly why I said it's too much to lose.

 

 

Uh. PhysX is about as widespread as olives in a poor household; might find the rare one or two that have 'em.

 

PhysX is just NVidia being dicky. If you don't have an NVidia GPU, PhysX runs on the CPU. So it's definitely nothing hardware (or even driver) specific.

 

I mean, check out Bullet. A free physics engine that can work just fine on the GPU. Some VERY impressive stuff can be done with it.

 

When the next generation of games out, I can readily assure you that we will see more work offloaded to the GPU; the FX modules in the P$4 and XBone are quite weak (albeit numerous), so i wouldn't be surprised if the total amount of gigaflops is less than 150 combined. The GPUs, on the other hand, can do atleast 1.3 teraflops.

 

It's blatantly obvious that GPUs will be the main decider in vidya game performance this generation.

[Miguelr23]

290x wins the round this time, better performance than titan with half the price.

Although the reference cooler is so craptastic that you better wait for DC2/Windforce (95C load...).

http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/27.html

Now i know why they are called volcanic islands :laugh:

amd manage to screw nvidia with both performance and outstanding price

cant wait to see performance with mantle

[Thor.]

YA its a beast of a card, i mean the 512 bit bus speed has never been seen yet on a single gpu setup. Maybe on the gtx690 but that's a dual gpu.

 

Goo amd...

[FMod]

YA its a beast of a card, i mean the 512 bit bus speed has never been seen yet on a single gpu setup.

Matrox Parhelia, Radeon 2900XT, GTX 280. It's far from unprecedented.

 

Radeons have been traditionally sticking to a 256-bit bus and higher memory clock for cost reasons. Wide bus means more traces means more BGA pins and PCB layers means significantly more expensive. 7970 was the first time since 2900 they used more than 256 bits.

 

Nvidia started skimping on their PCBs and cooling big time since GTX 480 (lots of burnt out 480s and 570s), culminating with GTX670's bare-bones board and heatsink. But high-speed GDDR5 hasn't gotten cheaper as anticipated, so now they had to pay top dollar for 770's fast DRAM.

 

So the reason they went 512 bit in 290X is to be able to use industry standard 1250 MHz, 512 Mbit RAM modules rather than pay for high speed and/or high density ones. I guess it also leaves room for a slightly faster version later on.

 

At the prices high-end cards are playing around these days, going 512 bit is really not far-fetched, it's been done on cheaper cards. I still remember being deemed crazy for even looking at $400 cards a decade ago. And these days it made a real difference in performance and image quality, not turning on some esoteric feature you barely ever see.

[Thor.]

No the bus speed was 384bit is now a standard, but that has changed i think sense the new r290x, back then you would see bus speeds of 384bit on high end cards, especially the 7900 series, maybe older 6000 series you would have seen that bus speed of 256bit on higher end models.

 

if you look at the manufacturers like asus, some of the radeons have almost it the 6ghz memory clock. it all depends on the manufacturer if you tell me.

Edited October 27, 2013 by Thor.

[FMod]

No the bus speed was 384bit is now a standard, but that has changed i think sense the new r290x, back then you would see bus speeds of 384bit on high end cards

384 bit has never been standard or common, all high end Radeons traditionally used 256-bit buses. There were three exceptions: 2900XT and R9 290X (512bit) and 7970 (384bit).

 

All the rest - that would be 9, X, X1, HD3, HD4, HD5, HD6 series - used 256-bit buses on flagship models, as even did all HD2900 other than XT. 6 out of 9 makes more than a coincidence.

 

 

if you look at the manufacturers like asus, some of the radeons have almost it the 6ghz memory clock. it all depends on the manufacturer if you tell me.

All 290X so far use 1.25 GHz memory (5 GT/s).

Reference specs exist for a reason. Any maker putting in 1.5 GHz chips would get a worse price/performance ratio.