Matae Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Not sure what's causing it; but typically the game will freeze when I'm running, or when there is just a lot going on.Here's my specs followed by the mods in use. OS Name Microsoft Windows 8Version 6.2.9200 Build 9200Other OS Description Not AvailableOS Manufacturer Microsoft CorporationSystem Name MATAESystem Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.System Model Q550LFSystem Type x64-based PCSystem SKU ASUS-NotebookSKUProcessor Intel® Core i7-4500U CPU @ 1.80GHz, 2401 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends Inc. Q550LF.205, 5/20/2013SMBIOS Version 2.7Embedded Controller Version 255.255BIOS Mode UEFIBaseBoard Manufacturer ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.BaseBoard Model Not AvailableBaseBoard Name Base BoardPlatform Role MobileSecure Boot State OnPCR7 Configuration Binding Not PossibleWindows Directory C:\WindowsSystem Directory C:\Windows\system32Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1Locale United StatesHardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.2.9200.16442"User Name Matae\MattTime Zone Central Daylight TimeInstalled Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GBTotal Physical Memory 7.89 GBAvailable Physical Memory 5.88 GBTotal Virtual Memory 15.9 GBAvailable Virtual Memory 13.7 GBPage File Space 8.00 GBPage File C:\pagefile.sysHyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions YesHyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions YesHyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware YesHyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes MODS Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveFalskaar.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveSkyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm Activemoonpath.esm ActiveWARZONES - Civil Unrest.esmenbweather.espBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveRevampedExteriorFog.esp ActiveAOS.esp ActiveDark Dungeons for Dawnguard.esp ActiveDark Dungeons for Dragonborn.esp ActiveFurther Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp ActiveBirdsofskyrim.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp ActiveBook Covers Skyrim.esp ActiveBook Covers Dawnguard.esp ActiveBook Covers Hearthfire.esp ActiveBook Covers Dragonborn.esp ActiveReal Clouds.esp ActiveSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveSmoking Torches.esp ActiveAMatterOfTime.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveAMB Glass Variants Lore.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Cloaks.esp ActiveContractor Armor.esp ActiveDragonBoneEbonsteel.esp ActiveDread Huntress Armor.esp ActiveDwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp ActiveEternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp ActiveEvil MasterMind Armor.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Mavari Armor.esp ActivePlatedMagiArmor.esp ActiveSamuraiArmor.esp ActiveTribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Activemoonpath_questdata.esp ActiveOBIS.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}OBISDB.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}whiterun spruce by revan1199.esp ActiveWyrmstooth.esp ActiveDifferently Ebony.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActiveRequires: 0 Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \ Dawnguard + Dragonborn.UnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveEnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveELFX - Exteriors.esp ActiveELFX - Moonpath.esp ActiveELFXEnhancer.esp ActiveDeadlySpellImpacts.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActiveApachiiHairStyles-FemaleOnly.esp ActiveBeards.esp ActiveInnovaEyes.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveInigo.esp ActiveKitiara.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.RealisticWaterTwo.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwiss Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) Well - the first thing i noticed is that you dont use any of the unofficial patches - those are basically a must have if you intend to add a number of mods. Another thing that caught my eye is the usage of light-mods like darker dungeons and enhanced lightning - to the best of my knowledge there is no reason to have darker dungeons as elfx is already providing that as an option. Usually the game freezing in situations like you describe is caused by weather and lightning mods in combination with high-res textures - your system is simply getting stressed and shuts down. I cant see if you have installed any HD texture packs from your list - those are another high probability for those crashes if you chose a full 4k replacement package. You use footprints as well - that is putting more load on your system again as is additional smoke for torches etc etc - you add a lot for the bling-look which is probably your only problem right now. Try to reduce those - right now i count roughly 13 mods fiddling with the optics. I suggest following: Base sykrim install plus all unofficial patches for the DLC modules you have installed - if you dont have a certain DLC dont install that unofficial patch of course. Then install char enhancement mods first. Start a test-char and check if you can get the optics for the char as you desire. When satisfied with all the char options start adding a single light mod or high resolution texture package - dont use any enb yet. Jump with your test char in several dungeons and locations and check the result. Install one single mod that 'improves' the optic of skyrim after another and stress test your system after each install first. On my personal system i reverted from a 4k HD texture package down to the light version of it - the optics is nearly the same but i didnt get those annoying crashes anymore. Benchmarking your system after you add a single mod is the most important part as your system will have a limitation - the combinations of mods and system settings are simply to high a number that anyone can give you a simple one-line advice that will work. P.S: After each installation of a mod run BOSS of couse - i hope that was obvious. If there is a mod BOSS places in 'unknown ' section - make a note of it and create a user rule for that mod to place it properly. Edited October 25, 2013 by dwiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matae Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Well - the first thing i noticed is that you dont use any of the unofficial patches - those are basically a must have if you intend to add a number of mods. Another thing that caught my eye is the usage of light-mods like darker dungeons and enhanced lightning - to the best of my knowledge there is no reason to have darker dungeons as elfx is already providing that as an option. Usually the game freezing in situations like you describe is caused by weather and lightning mods in combination with high-res textures - your system is simply getting stressed and shuts down. I cant see if you have installed any HD texture packs from your list - those are another high probability for those crashes if you chose a full 4k replacement package. You use footprints as well - that is putting more load on your system again as is additional smoke for torches etc etc - you add a lot for the bling-look which is probably your only problem right now. Try to reduce those - right now i count roughly 13 mods fiddling with the optics. I suggest following: Base sykrim install plus all unofficial patches for the DLC modules you have installed - if you dont have a certain DLC dont install that unofficial patch of course. Then install char enhancement mods first. Start a test-char and check if you can get the optics for the char as you desire. When satisfied with all the char options start adding a single light mod or high resolution texture package - dont use any enb yet. Jump with your test char in several dungeons and locations and check the result. Install one single mod that 'improves' the optic of skyrim after another and stress test your system after each install first. On my personal system i reverted from a 4k HD texture package down to the light version of it - the optics is nearly the same but i didnt get those annoying crashes anymore. Benchmarking your system after you add a single mod is the most important part as your system will have a limitation - the combinations of mods and system settings are simply to high a number that anyone can give you a simple one-line advice that will work. P.S: After each installation of a mod run BOSS of couse - i hope that was obvious. If there is a mod BOSS places in 'unknown ' section - make a note of it and create a user rule for that mod to place it properly. Thankyou so much Dwiss; your suggestions helped a LOT.I'm still new to modding; and seeing all the content you can add to Skyrim, I pretty much went overboard and wanted it all right now! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpanzer Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I was having this exact issue earlier but for some reason i was able to play for a solid 1 - 1 1/2 hours before freezing on ultra (recommended) instead of on medium which is what i prefer to play on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwiss Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Ultra and medium are doing some general changes to your ini-files and dont touch any of the other files - so what you set there is a general setting for everything. What could have happened is that you had done some manual changes to your ini earlier and by changing to ultra the standard-settings for some entries where defaulting back to proper values. As i stated for Matae - the entire secret to a stable Skyrim is to do things systematically. Dont change something in the launcher and then change mods etc - thats where the big game of guessing starts all the time. Make a single change to your base system, check it ingame for a moment and kind of remember (as in make a list) what you actually did. Some errors might not even happen early but first later when a savegame fills up with unhooked script-refernces i.e. - so being systematic about things during installation is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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