TorNyan Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) Okay, I will be explaining the process of my modding and my troubles very thoroughly. I hope that someone can help me explain why this happened to me, how I can prevent it, and, perhaps even come up with a solution. Bare with me.TL;DR? I Installed new mods, got CTD (Crash To Desktop) on loading screen, uninstalled. Same thing. I used a new permanent save file and didn't save after installing new mods.PreludeHello. I was fed up with crashes and infinite and freezing loading screens, so I decided to leave behind my dear abused save file and start a new one. This time being a lot more selective with the mods I install, and ALWAYS try new mods out on a clean save file.PreparationI kept all the lovely mods that I've had no problem with that have worked fine, and removed some that I didn't need or hadn't had the patience to try out yet.I BOSS'd my load order. I got CTD on start-up and TES5Edit said that "moonpath_questdata.esp" must be loaded before "moonpath.esm". Which was weird, because, Moonthpath to Elswyr was uninstalled. I re-installed it. Had the same, or similiar problem with Wyrmstooth, which I solved by re-installing Wyrthstooth too, deleting %localappdata%/Skyrim directory and re-run BOSS. I was now able to start the game. At some point, I also deleted my My Games/Skyrim folder, too.New GameI started a new game, played until I came into Bleak Falls Temple, where I made a new permanent save file. This is the load order of that save file, according to Wrye Bash (I use NMM to install mods and re-order my load order.). Load Order of Save 112 (image)http://fuskbugg.se/file/a1ykhh/Save%20122%20%20fix.png Load Order of Save 112 (text) 00 Skyrim.esm01 Update.esm02 Dawnguard.esm03 HearthFires.esm04 Dragonborn.esm05 Falskaar.esm06 ImmersiveContent.esm07 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm08 moonpath.esm09 SPIKE.esm0A WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm0B MagicDuelReborn.esm0C Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0a]0D OBlHairFinal.esm0E Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0]0F Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0]10 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.0]11 SMPC.esp12 Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp13 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 1.2.1]14 Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.2.1]15 Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp [Version 1.2.1]16 Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp [Version 1.2.1]17 LDWrapUpTutorialComplete.esp18 Brawl Bugs CE.esp19 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp1A Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp1B Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp1C fantasy music overhaul.esp1D StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp1E Chesko_Frostfall.esp1F ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp20 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp21 ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp [Version 1.3]22 StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp23 ImmersiveContentEXTLightDawnguard.esp24 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp25 birdsofskyrim.esp26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp27 Catsofskyrim.esp28 Dogsofskyrim.esp29 mintylightningmod.esp2A AOS.esp2B falskaar_loadscreen_fix.esp2C MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp2D AOS_DGDB Patch.esp2E JK Crafting Breakdown.esp2F ImprovedFishBASIC.esp30 JK Crafting Breakdown - Hearthfire.esp31 MVABasic.esp32 Twilis's Skooma, Grind bonemeal etc.esp33 Destructible_bottles.esp34 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp35 RaceMenu.esp36 iHUD.esp37 Immersive Weapons.esp38 Babettes Feast v1_2.esp39 SkyUI.esp3A Remodeled Armor.esp3B BirdsHFclean.esp3C SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0]3D Dr_Bandolier.esp3E Gold Coin Crafting.esp3F Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp40 Dr_BandolierDG.esp41 CookingExpanded.esp [Version 1.2b.]42 CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp43 CookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp44 calyps-animal-ears.esp45 moonpath_questdata.esp46 RaceMenuOverlays.esp47 rideable netch.esp48 skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp49 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp4A Hunterborn.esp4B The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp4C Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp4D Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp4E Lore Weapon Expansion.esp [Version 1.0]4F Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp50 Wyrmstooth.esp [Version 1.9]51 wearrobsovurarurm.esp52 Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp53 WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp54 weardargonbarnrobsovurarurm.esp55 FalskaarDawnguard.esp56 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp57 IslandFastTravel.esp58 UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.1.0]59 TouringCarriages.esp5A wizDynamicThings.esp5B Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp5C EnhancedLightsandFX.esp5D ELFX - Exteriors.esp5E Artifact Disenchanting.esp5F ELFX - Moonpath.esp60 Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp61 ELFXEnhancer.esp62 Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp63 SilverReprice.esp64 ELFX - Dawnguard.esp65 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp [Version 1.1]66 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp67 RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp68 Atlas Map Markers.esp69 Atlas Blackreach.esp6A RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp6B Atlas Dawnguard.esp6C RND_USKP-Patch.esp6D RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp6E Atlas Hearthfire.esp6F FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp70 Atlas Dragonborn.esp71 Lock Overhaul.esp72 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.3.3b]73 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp74 MiningforMages.esp75 MineMarkers.esp76 Shrine of Talos fix ENG.esp77 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp78 Shrine of Talos fix.esp79 SFO - Dragonborn.esp7A Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp7B DeadlyDragons.esp7C Book Covers Skyrim.esp7D togglehelm.esp7E ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp7F Book Covers Dawnguard.esp80 Convenient Horses.esp81 fasttraveleverywhereincdlc.esp82 Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp83 Book Covers Hearthfire.esp84 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp85 Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp86 ELFX - Dragonborn.esp87 Book Covers Dragonborn.esp88 ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp89 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp8A Consistent Stars - CoT.esp8B CoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp8C prod80_CoT_patch.esp8D EzEWorldMap.esp8E EzEMapSolstheim.esp8F ABT - Loot Arrows -25%.esp90 AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp91 AOS_COT-DG Patch.esp92 Ancient Spells 2.esp93 ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp94 RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp95 RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp96 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp97 DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp98 AOS_DSI Patch.esp99 MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp9A Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp9B ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp9C ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp9D ABT - Merchants Arrows -25%.esp9E ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp9F ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.espA0 Uncapped Perks - Conjuration.espA1 Uncapped Perks - Speech.espA2 Uncapped Perks - Restoration.espA3 Uncapped Perks - Illusion.espA4 Uncapped Perks - Heavy Armor.espA5 Uncapped Perks - Alchemy.espA6 Uncapped Perks - Block.espA7 Uncapped Perks - Enchanting.espA8 Uncapped Perks - Alteration.espA9 MountedCasting.espAA Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.espAB Uncapped Perks - Sneak.espAC Uncapped Perks - One Handed.espAD Uncapped Perks - Pickpocket.espAE Uncapped Perks - Archery.espAF Uncapped Perks - Two Handed.espB0 Uncapped Perks - Destruction.espB1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espB2 Uncapped Perks - Light Armor.espB3 Auto Unequip Ammo.espB4 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.espB5 Cooking Expanded - RND Support.espB6 Improved Fish BASIC - RND Support.espB7 BorderSense.espB8 SKSE Hotkeys.espB9 Upgraded Weapons and Armors.espBA Point The Way.esp [Version 1.0.2]BB ABT - Immersive Weapons 25%.espBC ImmersiveSpells.espBD SMPC_sounds.espBE Bashed Patch, 0.espThen I decided to install these mods: Textures and modelsBetter Town Textures - SMIM version v1.0 - why does it come with an .esp?Better Town Textures - Expanded Towns and Cities - Patch v6.5Expanded Towns and Cities (modular) v6.5Ruins Clutter Improved NMM Version v2.6 (custom) (without candles as SMIM already replaces those)aMidianBorn Caves 1K v2aMidianBorn Landscape 1 -1K- v3Project Parallax - Roads and Bridges SMIM v1.0Vivid Landscapes - Cliffs and Creeks 1024 v2.3Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised - yellow 1024 v1.3High Definition Ivy - Vanilla Color Scheme v2.00 ENBENBSeries v0.233 (Wrapper Version)RealVision ENB - Option B - Performance v2.3b.333 - CoT - ELFX - UHQ Sharpen etcImmersive Creatures v6.1.3 I UN-installed Beast Skeletons, as they are already included in Immersive Creatures that I installed. I also made some changes to my .ini files.Here, the entries starting with a semicolon ( :wink: are either the vanilla values (on "High" setting), or, if it's marked with "!!NEW!!", it means that the entry did not exist prior to me adding it. Skyrim.iniThe commented [General];sIntroSequence !!NEW!!sIntroSequence=sLanguage=ENGLISH ;fFlickeringLightDistance !!NEW!!fFlickeringLightDistance=8192uExterior Cell Buffer=36 [Display];fDecalLifetime !!NEW!!fDecalLifetime=512.0fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0;fSunShadowUpdateTime !!NEW!!fSunShadowUpdateTime=0;fSunUpdateThreshold !!NEW!!fSunUpdateThreshold=2.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass]bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0;iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure !!NEW!!iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7 [GeneralWarnings]SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0;f1PArrowTiltUpAngle !!NEW!!f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7;f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 !!NEW!!f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 [Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0;bEnableLogging=0bEnableLogging=1;bEnableTrace=0bEnableTrace=1;bLoadDebugInformation=0bLoadDebugInformation=1[Water]bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODLand=1bReflectSky=0bReflectLODTrees=1 [Actor];fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist !!NEW!!fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 [MapMenu];fMapWorldMaxPitch !!NEW!!fMapWorldMaxPitch=400.0000;fMapWorldMinPitch !!NEW!!fMapWorldMinPitch=0.0000;fMapWorldYawRange !!NEW!!fMapWorldYawRange=3600.0000;bWorldMapNoSkyDepthBlur !!NEW!!bWorldMapNoSkyDepthBlur=1;fWorldMapNearDepthBlurScale !!NEW!!fWorldMapNearDepthBlurScale=0;fWorldMapDepthBlurScale !!NEW!!fWorldMapDepthBlurScale=0;fWorldMapMaximumDepthBlur !!NEW!!fWorldMapMaximumDepthBlur=0;uLockedObjectMapLOD !!NEW!!uLockedObjectMapLOD=8;uLockedTerrainLOD !!NEW!!uLockedTerrainLOD=8;fMapLookMouseSpeed !!NEW!!fMapLookMouseSpeed=4.0000 ;fMapZoomMouseSpeed !!NEW!!fMapZoomMouseSpeed=10.0000 ;fMapLocalCursorPanSpeed !!NEW!!fMapLocalCursorPanSpeed=300.0000;fMapWorldZoomSpeed !!NEW!!fMapWorldZoomSpeed=0.2000;fMapMoveKeyboardSpeed !!NEW!!fMapMoveKeyboardSpeed=0.01 SkyrimPrefs.iniSame thing here.[General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0[imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=1[Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000fShadowDistance=4000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048iShadowSplitCount=2;iMaxAnisotropy=8iMaxAnisotropy=0fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000;fGamma=1.0000fGamma=1.2400fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade=1000fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000fLightLODStartFade=2500iTexMipMapMinimum=0iTexMipMapSkip=0iWaterMultiSamples=0;iMultiSample=8iMultiSample=0iShadowMode=3;bTreesReceiveShadows=0bTreesReceiveShadows=1;bDrawLandShadows=0bDrawLandShadows=1bFull Screen=0iSize H=1080iSize W=1920fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007iScreenShotIndex=2bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=10iMaxDecalsPerFrame=30;bFloatPointRenderTarget=0bFloatPointRenderTarget=1sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 ";bFXAAEnabled=1bFXAAEnabled=0iShadowMapResolution=2048fShadowBiasScale=0.25iShadowMaskQuarter=4iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=0iShadowFilter=3bShadowsOnGrass=1bTransparencyMultisampling=0bDeferredShadows=1bDrawShadows=1[Grass]b30GrassVS=0fGrassStartFadeDistance=5000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000[MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.0000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000[GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=1bGeneralSubtitles=1fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000bShowCompass=1[Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0320bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1;bMouseAcceleration=1bMouseAcceleration=0bUseKinect=0[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=0fVal6=1.0000uID6=0fVal5=1.0000uID5=0fVal4=1.0000uID4=3954fVal3=1.0000uID3=94881fVal2=0.4500uID2=466532fVal1=1.0000uID1=554685fVal0=0.8500uID0=1007612[Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=40000fBlockMaximumDistance=150000fBlockLevel1Distance=40000fBlockLevel0Distance=25000fSplitDistanceMult=1.1bShowLODInEditor=0[NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000[Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20[Decals]uMaxDecals=250bDecals=1;bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry !!NEW!!bDecalsOnSkinnedGeometry=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxSkinDecals=50uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5fLODFadeOutMultActors=6fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000[Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=0uLastAspectRatio=3[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=1[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0[Water]iWaterReflectHeight=512iWaterReflectWidth=512bUseWaterDisplacements=1bUseWaterRefractions=1bUseWaterReflections=1bUseWaterDepth=1 The madness beginsAfter starting the game and my rather new save file, It worked, but upon pressing [Esc] to open up the game menu I got a crash-to-desktop. Tried again and the same thing happened. After one more try, I think I actually managed to press [Esc] without a crash, however, after walking a few meters and facing an enemy, I got the crash. A trickI sometimes do is to disable a plugin from the Skyrim Launcher (the bashed patch usually, since it's last, but I don't think it matters which), close the launcher, open it again, re-enable the plugin. I think this shuffles around my load order a bit, but sometimes this works. Sometimes, after running BOSS, I get CTD on start-up. TES5Edit tells me something that a plugin needs its master to be loaded prior to it, which it already is. That is so frustrating and mind-bogging.This little trick, to disable and re-enable a plugin from the launcher, usually helps for CTD on start-up, and sometimes even CTD on loading screen. Bashed PatchI have had a batched patch for a while, but have never really figured out how to update it. I just open Wrye Bash, it says something about 'dates reset', and I close it again. I thought this might be how you make your Bashed Patch updated to your load order. I used Wrye Bash to add bash tags suggested by BOSS.In fact, I didn't know crap about Wrye Bash, so I decided to look things up.Apparently, red background means the plugin should be tagged as "disabled". I did that to the plugins it suggested. Minor changeand moved RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp to just above Hunterborn.esp, since the compatibility patch for those two mods listed Hunterborn.esp as its second master and RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp as its third.I learnt how to re-build my bashed patch and did so. It finally worked... until...However, the plugins tagged with the "Disable" bash tag, were disabled in my load order and did not show up in my game (like Touring Carriages were just normal carriages that fast travels). Big surprise there, huh? I re-enabled the disabled plugins and started up the game. The loading screen were showing for about half a minute before it crashed to desktop.I re-built the Wrye Bash. No change.I tried my little trick mentioned above. No change.Tried uninstalling all the mods I had previously installed, again, the ones mentioned above (Immersive Creatures, Better Towns Textures, etc.).I re-installed Beast Skeletons.I changed extensions for d3d9.dll, enbseries.dll and enbhost.exe, to make them .bak instead, therefore disabling the ENB. I also renamed the "shaders" folder that came with RealVision ENB, to "shaders BAK", in order to disable those files.I don't know why, but upon loading the save file, it says that it relies on content that is no longer available and asks me if i really want to proceed loading, even though Wrye Bash doesn't list any in-active plugin for that save file. There are now no plugins with red background (i.e. "needs to be tagged with 'disable'"). This is probably because I uninstalled the new mods that I had installed, and Wrye Bash no longer thinks it's necessary. This is my current load order (exported from Nexus Mod Manager)GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Falskaar.esm=1ImmersiveContent.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1moonpath.esm=1SPIKE.esm=1WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1OBlHairFinal.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1SMPC.esp=1Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp=1Ars Metallica.esp=1Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp=1Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp=1Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp=1LDWrapUpTutorialComplete.esp=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=0HighResTexturePack02.esp=0HighResTexturePack03.esp=0Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=0Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp=1fantasy music overhaul.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1Chesko_Frostfall.esp=1ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp=1ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp=1StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp=1ImmersiveContentEXTLightDawnguard.esp=183Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp=1birdsofskyrim.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1Catsofskyrim.esp=1Dogsofskyrim.esp=1mintylightningmod.esp=1AOS.esp=1falskaar_loadscreen_fix.esp=1MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp=1AOS_DGDB Patch.esp=1JK Crafting Breakdown.esp=1ImprovedFishBASIC.esp=1JK Crafting Breakdown - Hearthfire.esp=1MVABasic.esp=1Twilis's Skooma, Grind bonemeal etc.esp=1Destructible_bottles.esp=1DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1iHUD.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=0Immersive Weapons.esp=1Babettes Feast v1_2.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1Remodeled Armor.esp=1BirdsHFclean.esp=1SmartCast_1_0.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1Gold Coin Crafting.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1CookingExpanded.esp=1CookingExpanded - Hearthfire.esp=1CookingExpanded - Dragonborn.esp=1calyps-animal-ears.esp=1moonpath_questdata.esp=1RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1rideable netch.esp=1skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1Hunterborn.esp=1The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp=1Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp=0Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1wearrobsovurarurm.esp=1Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp=1weardargonbarnrobsovurarurm.esp=1FalskaarDawnguard.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1IslandFastTravel.esp=1UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1TouringCarriages.esp=1wizDynamicThings.esp=1Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1Artifact Disenchanting.esp=1ELFX - Moonpath.esp=1Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp=1ELFXEnhancer.esp=1Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp=1SilverReprice.esp=1ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_DestructibleBottles-Patch.esp=1Atlas Map Markers.esp=1Atlas Blackreach.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1Atlas Dawnguard.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Atlas Hearthfire.esp=1FalskaarRNDHotfix.esp=1Atlas Dragonborn.esp=1Lock Overhaul.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1MiningforMages.esp=1MineMarkers.esp=1Shrine of Talos fix ENG.esp=1SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp=1Shrine of Talos fix.esp=1SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1togglehelm.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1Book Covers Dawnguard.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1fasttraveleverywhereincdlc.esp=1Convenient Horses - Unique Frost.esp=1Book Covers Hearthfire.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp=1ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1Book Covers Dragonborn.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1Consistent Stars - CoT.esp=1CoT_SnowPatch_NoAurora.esp=1prod80_CoT_patch.esp=1EzEWorldMap.esp=1EzEMapSolstheim.esp=1ABT - Loot Arrows -25%.esp=0AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp=1AOS_COT-DG Patch.esp=1Ancient Spells 2.esp=1ABT - Recover +25% Arrows and Bolts.esp=1RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp=1RND_UniqueBoozeBottles-Patch.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts.esp=1DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp=1AOS_DSI Patch.esp=1MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp=1Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp=1ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.esp=1ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.esp=1ABT - Merchants Arrows -25%.esp=0ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Conjuration.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Speech.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Restoration.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Illusion.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Heavy Armor.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Alchemy.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Block.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Enchanting.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Alteration.esp=1MountedCasting.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Sneak.esp=1Uncapped Perks - One Handed.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Pickpocket.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Archery.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Two Handed.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Destruction.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1Uncapped Perks - Light Armor.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1Cooking Expanded - RND Support.esp=1Improved Fish BASIC - RND Support.esp=1BorderSense.esp=1SKSE Hotkeys.esp=1Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1ABT - Immersive Weapons 25%.esp=1ImmersiveSpells.esp=1SMPC_sounds.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 DLCList.txtNow, what is DLCList.txt from %localappdata%/Skyrim, because I don't understand it.83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espABT - Faster Arrows Improved +25%.espABT - Faster Bolts Improved +25%.espABT - Immersive Weapons 25%.espABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +50%.espABT - 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Dwemer Airship.esptogglehelm.espTouringCarriages.espTwilis's Skooma, Grind bonemeal etc.espUncapped Perks - Alchemy.espUncapped Perks - Alteration.espUncapped Perks - Archery.espUncapped Perks - Block.espUncapped Perks - Combat + Stealth.espUncapped Perks - Conjuration.espUncapped Perks - Destruction.espUncapped Perks - Enchanting.espUncapped Perks - Heavy Armor.espUncapped Perks - Illusion.espUncapped Perks - Light Armor.espUncapped Perks - One Handed.espUncapped Perks - Pickpocket.espUncapped Perks - Restoration.espUncapped Perks - Sneak.espUncapped Perks - Speech.espUncapped Perks - Two Handed.espUnique BOOZE Bottles.espUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espUnreadBooksGlow.espUpgraded Weapons and Armors.espWARZONES - Civil Unrest.esmWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espWeapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.espWeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.espweardargonbarnrobsovurarurm.espwearrobsovurarurm.espwizDynamicThings.espWyrmstooth.espPrometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp Bashed Patch Config Bashed Patch, 0.esp ConfigThis is the current configuration of this Bashed Patch. This report has also been copied into your clipboard. Patch ModePython Merge Patches• Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp• ABT - Loot Arrows -25%.esp• ABT - Merchants Arrows -25%.esp Import Stats• Update.esm• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp• Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp• Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp• Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp Tweak Settings Actor Strength Encumbrance Multiplier [5] AI: Max Active Actors [20] Arrow: Recovery from Actor [33%] Arrow: Speed [x 1.0] Cell: Respawn Time [10 Days] Cell: Respawn Time (Cleared) [30 Days] Combat: Alchemy [Disallow] Combat: Max Actors [20] Combat: Recharge Weapons [Allow] Companions: Max Number [6] Crime: Alarm Distance [4000] Crime: Assault Fine [40] Crime: Days in Prison [100] Crime: Escape Jail [100] Crime: Murder Bounty [1000] Crime: Pickpocketing Fine [25] Crime: Trespassing Fine [5] Max Resistence [85%] Max Summons [1] Max Training [5] Msg: Soul Captured! [None] Timescale [20] Leveled Lists Update.esm [ADR] Dawnguard.esm [ADR] HearthFires.esm [ADR] Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [ADR] Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [ADR] Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [AD] 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp [ADR] Immersive Weapons.esp [ADR] RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp [ADR] Lore Weapon Expansion.esp [ADR] Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp [ADR] RND_USKP-Patch.esp [AR] DeadlyDragons.esp [ADR] The save file isn't important, but can someone please help me explain why this happened?Can a save file break by installing or uninstalling a mod, even though I did not overwrite the file after installing and uninstalling? Edited November 7, 2013 by TorNyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes it can very easily. So you installed like 10 mods uninstalled some and did an ini change and things went to hades in a handbasket? Anyway, If I were you I would try to go back to an old save and the old set up (since you seem to remember it clearly) including the skeleton. I know its in the other mod but the game may not think it is. Then do just one thing at a time..play a bit make a new save and move on. Skyrim is not very forgiving in changes made and even if you disable a mod the info (especially scripts) can stay in the save. Sometimes you have to save, exit, disable..go back and make a new save...exit and delete the content in total...load save and hope it works then make a new save again. This is why we always make backups of files and saves and only do one thing at a time and test it. yes I know it is hard and I sometimes try to cheat..to my regret. ALso always read the documentation with the mod. Many have very specific install and uninstall instructions. They type it for a reason...read it!! :) Hopefully you don't have to reinstall skyrim. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorNyan Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Yes it can very easily. So you installed like 10 mods uninstalled some and did an ini change and things went to hades in a handbasket? Anyway, If I were you I would try to go back to an old save and the old set up (since you seem to remember it clearly) including the skeleton. I know its in the other mod but the game may not think it is.Aye, I will be even more careful. But what I don't get is how my save file (I mean THIS particular save file, that I made as a backup) could have been broken even though I did not overwrite it at any point and went back to my old mods. The warning upon loading it though suggests that I did not fully go back to my old mods. I'm not sure. Maybe I have overlooked something. And I should have made a backup of my backup save. By the way, if you change your load order (and I mean *just the order*), from a working one, to a one that also should work, can that affect your save file? Of course it will if you change something critical that would make mods incompatible with each other. Let's say you have a working one but just want to clean it up a little. Can just changing the order of some mods, from time to time, affect your save file? Edited November 8, 2013 by TorNyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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