reaper13 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 can someone make me a COP derringer? all the info you might need is at the websights http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Firearms/Singl...ols/COP_357.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COP_357_Derringer :thanks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfGah Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 weird reload, would that use the sawed off shotgun animation? and exactly how strong is something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper13 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 it uses .357 ammo so it's probley as strong as a magnum is other games. i think that ammo is uses in the F.O.O.K. also the website http://www.gunwebsites.com/Articles.php?ac...ntent1185154434 might help with the size. Shade ( the girl in my stories) uses a custom one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper13 Posted May 9, 2009 Author Share Posted May 9, 2009 sorry for the double post but the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQM-wERs-VE might help as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaboeN Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 It's a cool looking gun, I'll be glad to provide some information I found. I've seen this one pop up as a prop in a few movies. Bellucci used it in the Matrix to off some henchman, Leon had one in Blade Runner, and even popped up briefly in Stargate. There are a number of reasons behind that mostly related to filming.First off, this gun is made locally in California so there may have been some deal where movie studios bought strait from the factory, secondly since it's chambered in .357 magnum (and therefore also .38) it doesn't need special .25acp or other mousegun blanks. It was also popular because of the way it looked and worked. It has four barrels and four separate internal firing pins. Because of this and due to it firing more powerful blanks than most handguns it's size it could produce a ferocious muzzle blast. In Blade Runner they even modified it to shoot two barrels at a time (which by the way is illegal since that technically makes it a machine gun).It largely gets used as a more scary-looking and louder mousegun in the hands of detectives, background characters and especially women (because we all know, if stereotypes are to be believed that no woman can handle any gun bigger than her fist /sarcasm).But for a number of reasons outside Hollywood and various collector markets this gun was a dismal failure. In general single-shot derringers have to be really lightweight in order to sell. Any heavier than a couple ounces and it better have a revolving cylinder or a box magazine. The COP was surprisingly heavy and it needed to be since it had 4 barrels that needed to be tough enough to withstand magnum loads. This made carrying it a pain in the ass. It was also notable for having an immense trigger pull. Since it had 4 firing pins and a weird striker mechanism the trigger pull was actually stiffer than that of most full-size revolvers and with the little grip you have on such a small gun putting that much pull on that trigger takes a *censored*ing hand of legendary strength. Likewise with the recoil. Typically mouseguns in magnum calibers tend to kick quite a bit because the gun firing the bullet is so small. It somewhat defeats the purpose too since the barrel is so short it won't pack that much muzzle velocity. So it's really all quite a waste of good .357 ammo although thankfully it can also fire .38 special.So because of it's many inherent flaws the COP (Cop Off-duty Pistol) derringer failed to generate many sales and COP Inc. failed soon after. Very few exist to this day that aren't in the hands of collectors. Examples typically sell for around 600$-800$ which is quite a bit for such a small gun. And it's not really useful for anything other than gathering dust in a display case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOfGah Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 short range, I would probably use something like this like I would a shot gun. According to Naboen's, post, it can be modified to fire off two barrels at once. Imagine the streangh of four magnum shots at once at point blank. I am all for someone making one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neunen Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 i would be happy to model one of these (actually i had started on one about 2 months ago after the battlestar finale (its used in the show), but dropped it to focus on other projects) but someone else would have to texture it and put it in game because the time i get to use photoshop and the geck is minimal and i have other obligations to see through :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holty07 Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 I'd happily put it in game, if done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neunen Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 cool, heres where im at. let me know if anything seems off. Holty are you able to texture it, or should we find someone to do that aswell? this is only my second gun and the first one isnt even in game yet, so im not toally sure how things need to be seperate. but as it stands the 4 parts are the body, the barrel, the trigger, and the bullets (which im guessing we would need for the reload animation) http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5336/cop01.th.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaboeN Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Sawn-off animations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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