Considering a GPU Upgrade.

[Thor.]

You might need a bigger ssd for Windows, system applications and software can fill it up pretty quick. Samsung is a great ssd though, I suggest get a 256gb or higher.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Thor.

[Werne]

The 650W should be plenty, GTX Titan and i7 4770K can run on a 450W PSU.

 

 

 

*gasp* $800!? My entire PC cost less than that! :psyduck:

Tell me about it, if you find it painful to see then imagine how painful it is to hand the money over.

One question... Is visual quality of something as meaningless as a video game really worth that much money?

 

I play games on a 100$ 7770 and I'm perfectly happy with it, so I have trouble understanding the need for people to go spend twice the amount of money I earn monthly on a single component just for a prettier-looking game, especially when they can't afford it.

[Thor.]

If you want something that last as a single gpu, err yes. In the long run it pays for itself. :thumbsup:

Edited November 21, 2013 by Thor.

[ZeroSaber39]

You might need a bigger ssd for Windows, system applications and software can fill it up pretty quick. Samsung is a great ssd though, I suggest get a 256gb or higher.

It's still holding up for now, I don't install many applications to it so I still have 50 GB of space left.

 

One question... Is visual quality of something as meaningless as a video game really worth that much money?

 

I play games on a 100$ 7770 and I'm perfectly happy with it, so I have trouble understanding the need for people to go spend twice the amount of money I earn monthly on a single component just for a prettier-looking game, especially when they can't afford it.

Slow down there, I never said I couldn't afford it I can just be very cheap at times. I'm not one of those guys who spends his money upgrading his computer rather then paying bills or buying food, I'm just a very frugal person. The money for this GPU for example, I'm Native American and my tribe has some deal with the government for the fish hatcheries on our reservation or something like that and my tribe divides the money the government pays us among the tribe members, basically all members between the age of 18 and 55 receive 2 $1250 checks a year, I haven't spent my last 5 or 6 checks on anything and have been holding on to the money.

 

In fact I'm still not spending any of that money because the money for this GPU is from my 2nd check of this year and I'm still hesitant to spend it just because it's my nature to horde money. My computer is about the only expensive thing in my home simply because it's my primary form of entertainment, my standard routine consists of going to work, coming home, mess around on my computer, sleep, repeat because I don't do much of anything else I also end up saving a lot of money from my job, I think on and average week I only spend about $60-$80 and most of that is on gas money to go to my job in the first place.

 

For someone like me my computer is more then a machine to play games on. The more money I spend on it, the less I have to spend over all I used to use anime and movies as my primary way to entrain myself but that was resulting in my spending around $700 a month on DVDs as opposed to $750 every few years on a GPU. Sorry about the drawn out response, the point is that yes for me personally it's very worth it and I end up saving money in the long run, it doesn't mean I don't constantly second guess my decisions or that I'm happy when it's time to hand the money over. :sweat:

[Werne]

Slow down there, I never said I couldn't afford it I can just be very cheap at times.

I was speaking in general, I know some guys who'll rather starve for a month than buy cheap PC components (they like to brag), and a few guys who'll starve just to have Diesel jeans instead of 10$ ones like I wear (again, they like to brag).

 

If you got the money, then I say go for it. It was just interesting to me since I never was much for high-end components, I prefer mid-range or low-end with good bang-for-buck (aka, I can't afford any better :laugh:), so I was generally curious if something like that is even worth shelling out 800$ for. To you it is, to me the graphical quality alone is still not worth it, I'm the kind of guy that used a Radeon 4350 (HTPC card) for five years until I finally replaced it a few months back. :smile:

 

Either way, my curiosity is satisfied, and you're satisfied with the card, that's pretty much all that matters. :wink:

 

By the way, don't mind Thor's rambling about SSDs, he likes to talk to himself. :tongue: 120GB is perfectly fine for Windows and by the time it gets filled up, you'll need to reinstall it anyway. One suggestion though, disable defragmenting on the SSD (if you didn't already) or it will decrease it's lifespan immensely. SSDs fragment data on purpose to reduce write cycles per cell, defragmenting can severely impact the write cycles and reduce the SSD's lifespan by as much as 50%.

 

EDIT: As a sidenote, I like that bike in your avatar.

Edited November 21, 2013 by Werne

[ZeroSaber39]

Well finally got the card ordered, though it might take me a while to recover from letting that money go. :confused: Just got to keep reminding myself I already have enough money saved and if I didn't spend the money from that check it was just going to be stashed away, not being used for anything. Plus at least I still have $400 left so it's not like I blew all of it, though that $400 will likely end up getting spent to dealing with Christmas presents since that time of year is coming up.

 

I was speaking in general, I know some guys who'll rather starve for a month than buy cheap PC components (they like to brag), and a few guys who'll starve just to have Diesel jeans instead of 10$ ones like I wear (again, they like to brag).

The "best" ones are the ones you hear about who blow all their money on their PC and then end up having to sell it because they don't have enough money to live, makes you wonder what gets into people, makes me think of a video Rich at ReveiwTechUSA did about how easy it can be to fall into the trap feeling like you need to get all the latest upgrade when your pc gaming and how dangerous it can be:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TiRg5X7OM0

 

Hell I can't even fathom those people who live from paycheck to paycheck, frequently I'm at work on payday and see guys who get their checks and on their breaks they run out to cash them because they're completely broke and I just can see how anyone can live like that. When it's payday for me I'm always kind of "meh" about it, hell sometimes I don't even cash my checks on the week I get them because I don't need the money and I have no reason to go around where the bank is so I can't be bothered to go out of my way.

 

If you got the money, then I say go for it. It was just interesting to me since I never was much for high-end components, I prefer mid-range or low-end with good bang-for-buck (aka, I can't afford any better :laugh:), so I was generally curious if something like that is even worth shelling out 800$ for. To you it is, to me the graphical quality alone is still not worth it, I'm the kind of guy that used a Radeon 4350 (HTPC card) for five years until I finally replaced it a few months back. :smile:

That's how I was hoping to handle my PC, build it and not upgrade until TES6 comes out then upgrade/build a new one. I would have stuck to the plan too if Skyrim was running properly. I didn't even know anything about the new cards that had come out the past year because I had felt no need to look into it until I got feed up with Skyrim not running how I wanted it to. Hopefully this card will help with my crash issues if it doesn't all I can say is for the price it better *ban me* away the way everyone is saying it will otherwise it's going straight back. :cool:

 

By the way, don't mind Thor's rambling about SSDs, he likes to talk to himself. :tongue: 120GB is perfectly fine for Windows and by the time it gets filled up, you'll need to reinstall it anyway. One suggestion though, disable defragmenting on the SSD (if you didn't already) or it will decrease it's lifespan immensely. SSDs fragment data on purpose to reduce write cycles per cell, defragmenting can severely impact the write cycles and reduce the SSD's lifespan by as much as 50%.

Yeah I made sure to disable defrag when I put the machine together, honestly I was hesitant to use an ssd as I'm someone who values disk space highly and I didn't like the low capacities I was seeing on ssd's for the price. I'm glad I did though, I'm never running an OS on an HDD ever again :tongue: plus it's saving my money in the long run, I used to hate waiting for my PC to boot up so I used to never turn my old PC off but with my current PC boot up time is nothing so my electric bills have been much lower.

 

I was thinking about getting a 1TB SSD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W014B1465) to replace my 1TB Western Digital Black as my gaming drive but I had to ask myself if I really needed that and with buying this graphics card it's defiantly not going to happen now, not until around this time next year anyway, I try to keep part upgrades to once a year to avoid falling into the trap of wasting money on upgrades I don't need, the only times I buy more then 1 computer part a year are if I'm building a new one or I have some emergency like a drive dying.

 

EDIT: As a sidenote, I like that bike in your avatar.

I like the Miku in my avatar :smile: though she's probably hard to see clearly.

[ermacos]

I bought a samsung 840 pro 128 gb, only for boot. I use a fast normal hdd for the "program files", but I will use my ssd for antivirus, peripheral drivers, etc.

 

It comes with 5 years warranty. Here is the 256gigs edition http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193

 

its the same thing, only more space and more "write" speed. If I wanted to load my games with an ssd, I would use 1 x 128 gigs for boot and 1 x for games and programs.

Edited November 22, 2013 by ermacos

[Thor.]

I have load times under 3 seconds in skyrim thanks to steam being hosted on the ssd as a secondary drive.

 

I would never think of having both os and steam combined, it will certainly fill pretty quickly.

 

I personally have a 480gb crucial m500 which does the job just nicely.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Thor.

[ermacos]

I picked samsumg because of the warranty... I always pick quality over performance. I dont know if the samsumg performance is better, i got attracted by the warranty size. 5 years is more than enough.

Edited November 22, 2013 by ermacos

[Thor.]

It has better software than the crucials, i suggest updating the firmware and optimizing it through its software suit.