Always Crashing on Save

[ma1025]

I already know all about the "kill yourself and make the game reload" thing and whatnot, and that will work for a time, but after playing for more than five minutes I'm crashing while trying to save about 2/3 of the time.

 

It's making me crazy and nothing I do helps. Even using something like CASM and Extended Save Manager causes crashes.

 

I'm not using any autosaves.

 

 

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
StreetLights.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Inventory Access.esm
aHUD.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
EVE.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Alpha's Raider Overhaul FO3.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm
Dree Perks.esp
WastelandSettler02Armor.esp
Imperfection.esp
Imperfection - Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Error Fixes.esp
HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
RK-Skelette-3.0.esp
PureWater-LittleRad-.esp
Alternate Start - Roleplayers.esp
GNR Enhanced.esp
Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp
bzArmour.esp
UpgradedCaravanMerchants.esp
Jericho Expanded Dialogue.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp
RH_FWE_Bridge.esp
FWE-COL-Enclave-compatibilitypatch.esp
FWE-COL-Enclave-compatibilitypatch-hellfireaddon.esp
Bornagain Outcast T-45d Texture Patch.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
Alpha's Raider Overhaul - FWE.esp
ClassicEnclaveAPA-Replacement-english.esp
DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp
Suit for Women Replacer.esp
doctorli_glasses.esp
Powered Power Armor.esp
PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp
PPA - Broken Steel.esp
PPA - The Pitt.esp
PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp
PPA - FWE.esp
PPA Patch.esp
tubURP.esp
RH_EVE_Bridge.esp
Destructible Ordnance + Zeta.esp
ShadySandsShuffle.esp
FollowersHire_ByCharisma_NoKarma.esp
All Companions Essential.esp
fessentialdeathtime45.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
Flora Overhaul.esp
Just Reload Already.esp
Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp
F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp
f*#@invisiblewalls0.1.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Total active plugins: 86
Total plugins: 88

 

[Kiern]

I was having the same issue. The game crashed from trying to manunally save or auto saves from CASM. I then ran a masterupdate using FO3Edit, and that fixed the problem. i had avoided using that since the main problems it was designed to fix are supposedly no longer an issue, but it was the only thing that i could find that fixed the issue for me.

 

Before doing that though you might want to try a solution posted a few threads down --> CTD When Saving

 

If that works it would be a better fix that running the masterupdate since it is much less intrusive.

Edited January 29, 2014 by Kiern

[Purr4me]

I already know all about the "kill yourself and make the game reload" thing and whatnot, and that will work for a time, but after playing for more than five minutes I'm crashing while trying to save about 2/3 of the time.

 

It's making me crazy and nothing I do helps. Even using something like CASM and Extended Save Manager causes crashes.

 

I'm not using any autosaves.

 

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

StreetLights.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Inventory Access.esm

aHUD.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

EVE.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Alpha's Raider Overhaul FO3.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

Dree Perks.esp

WastelandSettler02Armor.esp

Imperfection.esp

Imperfection - Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Error Fixes.esp

HZSmoothLight - FO3.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

RK-Skelette-3.0.esp

PureWater-LittleRad-.esp

Alternate Start - Roleplayers.esp

GNR Enhanced.esp

Chems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.esp

bzArmour.esp

UpgradedCaravanMerchants.esp

Jericho Expanded Dialogue.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp

RH_FWE_Bridge.esp

FWE-COL-Enclave-compatibilitypatch.esp

FWE-COL-Enclave-compatibilitypatch-hellfireaddon.esp

Bornagain Outcast T-45d Texture Patch.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Alpha's Raider Overhaul - FWE.esp

ClassicEnclaveAPA-Replacement-english.esp

DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp

Suit for Women Replacer.esp

doctorli_glasses.esp

Powered Power Armor.esp

PPA - Operation Anchorage.esp

PPA - Broken Steel.esp

PPA - The Pitt.esp

PPA - Mothership Zeta.esp

PPA - FWE.esp

PPA Patch.esp

tubURP.esp

RH_EVE_Bridge.esp

Destructible Ordnance + Zeta.esp

ShadySandsShuffle.esp

FollowersHire_ByCharisma_NoKarma.esp

All Companions Essential.esp

fessentialdeathtime45.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Flora Overhaul.esp

Just Reload Already.esp

Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp

F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

f*#@invisiblewalls0.1.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Total active plugins: 86

Total plugins: 88

 

 

 

scan every plugin for cell deleted data. esm's are not to be edited as an esm, they must be left for last ,converted to and actual esp format before editing them, and again, scan for deleted data ........in the cells. use the fo3edit program to find it. Get familiar with the tools.

 

as for master updating. your wasting your time, sure, you can get it to run. but the deleted entries are now in your saved game so when you DO install a mod calling for that deleted data? Now you start to crash and can't figure out why, and blame the mod you just installed.

 

master updating only bypasses the scan of deletions as a master is supposed to do, it does not fix the problem.

 

The problem is "DELETED DATA" never delete data or leave deleted data in a plugin for this game. If you don't know how to fix it? ask the author.

 

Don't ever edit a master file in the esm format. esp is the format for edits. always has been. Never going to change no matter what you choose to use.

 

kitty