Johny Obliv Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Hello people, got a little problem with my game. Whenever I use restore health, my game freezes. Doesn't crash to desktop, but my game just stops. I've got a pretty big load order. This thing never happened to me before I installed Deadly Reflex, or it could have been Better Cities, but that doesn't make sense. Here's my load order, I sort it using Better Oblivion Sorting Software. Oblivion.esmAll Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmA_Bloody_Mess.esmCobl Main.esmUlrim's Horses.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmCyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esmTamrielTravellers.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmFort Akatosh.esmWondrous Items.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmJog_X_Mod.esmCobl Races.espCobl Races TNR.espCobl Races TNR SI.espHrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - SI.espBetter Cities .espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espAtmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espStorms & Sound.espWindowLightingSystem.espBedrollsanyone.espbgShaderStandAloneEV.espBlackpowder_bombs v04.espCrimsonScarArmor.espDaggerfallBooks.espMedic!.espP1DseeYouSleep.espQ - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.espRAEVWD Cities.espRAEVWD New Sheoth.espRAEVWD Imperial City.espReneersNotesMod.espRoadSigns.espBook Jackets Oblivion - SSBFL.espTimekeeper_Advanced.espFF_Real_Thirst.espFF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.espLandmarks.espExpanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete v1.0.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.espP1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espMaleBodyReplacerV4.esparme - excalibur.espArmor of the Dark Lord.espDMACArmor.espDMRangerArmor.espKDDwemerSpectacles.espLich King's Helm v1_0.espM.O.E. - New Staffs, Blight and Ashstorms.espM.O.E. - Playable Scythe.espNew Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.espSauron_Armor_Chest.espXSPipeMod.espSlof's Horses Base.espAncientTowers.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espSM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.espExnemRuneskulls.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOCC-OOO-Patch.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_RealSwords.espMart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.espMart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.espMart's Monster Mod - Foxes.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.espTamrielTravellerAdvscript.espTamrielTravellers4OOO.espTamrielTravellersItemsnpc.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espOOO-WaterFish.espClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.espAmajor7 Imperial Furniture.espBig Business.espEiAmod.espEiAmod_ShiveringIsles.espHunter's Haven File 1.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.espLetThePeopleDrink.espM.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.espM.O.E. - The Black Sacrament - Night Mother's Ritual.espMalevolent.espOCC-Malevolent-Patch.espReneersContainerMod.espThe Ranger's House.espScribe Supplies.espServant of the Dawn.espStopDarkBrotherhood.espTheElderCouncil.espGuardsofCyrodiil.espThermae.espBetter Cities - Thievery.espVaultsofCyrodiil.espVaultsofCyrodiilBC.espWOTFH_1.3.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.espDLCfrostcrag.espSM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.espFrostcragRebornCobl.espUlrim's Horses.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espSM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.espM.O.E. - Visit Valen Dreth Topic.espUlrim's Horses - Knights patch.espOCC-KOTN-Patch.espRTT.espOCC-RTTv3 Patch.espBlood&Mud.espLost Paladins of the Divines.espMannimarcoRevisited.espMannimarcoRevisitedOOO.espMannimarcoWardrobeChest.espShadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.espMart's Monster Mod - City Defences.espFCOM_Blood&Mud.esproad+bridges.espNRB4+Vineyard Patch.espFortAkatosh.espFortAkatosh-VileLair patch.espFortAkatosh-NewRoads&Bridges patch.espbartholm.espBetter Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.espOpen Cities New Sheoth.espOpen Cities Bartholm.espOpen Cities Full + Bravil Blood & Mud.espOCC-COBL-Wells.espNRB4+OCOD Patch.espHarvest [Flora].espBloody_Mess - Bloody_Fights.espCliff_BetterLetters.espDecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.espDrop Lit Torches Weight.espKT_KhajEyeToggle.espM.O.E. - Travel Services.espM.O.E. - Lucien Lachance Rumors Fix.espM.O.E. - Icons for Mythic Dawn Armour - Fix.espM.O.E. - Lycanthropy and Lichcraft.espM.O.E. - New Classes.espReneersTrainingMod.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espSkoomaTest.espWondrous Items.obse.espWrye Shivering.espLynges Unlimited Death Reload Time.espQuest Award Leveller.espQuest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.espQuest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.espQuest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.espQuest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.espReal Hunger, Cobl.espWounds Healed - 1.1.espRealisticForceLow.espRealSleep.espM.O.E. - Vampire Clan Raelu.espM.O.E. - Vampire Players Scarier.espMidasSpells.esphilarity_121.espM.O.E. - Mythic Dawn Powers.espM.O.E. - Teleportation Magic and Icarian Flight.espSupremeMagicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_EnchantStaff.espSigilStoneSelector.espSyc_AtHomeAlchemy.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.esptchos' breakfast food.espStealthOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espEnhanced Grabbing.espAensland - The Bank Mod.espSamVimes's Feint Death.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espthievery.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espAll+5AttributeModifiers.espGet Wet.espReal Lava 1.3.espCobl Silent Equip Misc.espBetter Imperial City.espBetter Cities - COBL.espNRB4 Standard Road Record.espTchos Alchemy Tower.esptda_PHModv1.2.espThe Retreat.espP-Froggys Wall Climbing EV.espBashed Patch, 0.esp :thanks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 My first guess would be deadly reflex. First try disabling it. If you get over your freeze, try putting it back, but last in your load order. There is also a known bug that causes crashes if you have over 400 mods in your Oblivion folder, not just the ones in the data folder or the ones you have enabled, but total esp, esm abd bsa files. The extras must be moved, not just out of the data folder, but out of the Oblivion folder altogether Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjaffar Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 There is also a patch for Deadly Reflex that, for me, fixed this problem. I can't remember where it is right now, but it was posted in a similar topic. Odds are you only noticed this with restoration spells, but if you swing your sword or cast a different spell, it will do the same thing. Deadly Reflex, for me, is always the very last thing I load, even if other mods insist they should be. I find Deadly Reflex to have an attitude and the slightest thing getting in its way makes it very angry. And considering the mod lets you decapitate things, you don't want it to be angry at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Obliv Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 If someone could give me the name or a link to that patch, then that would be great. I realy like Deadly Reflex, and I don't like playing without it. EDIT. Never mind, I found the patch. Everything is allright now. Thanks for telling me about the patch, kudos to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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