America in Iraq?

[Akrid]

No. Its just that Bush is human, and humans make mistakes, although as far as I know, he hasn't made any serious mistakes yet. Claiming that Kerry would have done worse is just a way to show that Bush was much better choice. Much better than Kerry, who would have hidden under a pillow after the September 11 atack and done nothing to stop terrorism. Or maybe he would have fought a 'sensitive war' against them. Atacked them with pillows or smth.

 

How do you know? Kerry has never been president during 9 11 and never will, saying hes would hide under a pillow and address terrorist with wrist slapps is unsupported and unproven hearsay. Bush is human, yes and humans make mistakes, and humans are greedy by nature (from birth). Bush's mistake is running America like a corperation instead of a country. And to say he hasnt made any serious mistake?!?! what do you think the whole war in iraq is? a lucky break? a stroke of fortune? ITS A MISTAKE!!!!!

 

I certainly hope we're not gonna nuke Iraq off the map... That would be ridiculous. That would mean all our soldiers who fought and died there... Died in vain, and it would mean all the tax money spent on the war went down the hole for no reason.

 

We have no intention of nukeing Iraq off the map, why would you think that? Bush plans to control the money flow from iraq, by continuing "protect" iraq, and carry out this oil for food program. We could make iraq self sufficent, our colilition is not helping us because they are pathetic third world countrys. We train thousands of US forces all the time, but we cant train iraqis? thats BS, Bush dosnt want them to be self suffiecent, as long as we are there we hold the cards.

[draighox]

How do you know? Kerry has never been president during 9 11 and never will, saying hes would hide under a pillow and address terrorist with wrist slapps is unsupported and unproven hearsay.

Well, Kerry has never appeared as a resolute person with all his waverings.

 

And to say he hasnt made any serious mistake?!?! what do you think the whole war in iraq is? a lucky break? a stroke of fortune? ITS A MISTAKE!!!!!

It didn't went as well as we had expected, but americans destroyed nest of terrorists and removed another stalin.

Of course, now terrorist activities appear more than with Saddam, but look at anthill. When undisturbed, it looks quite peaceful. Now try to smash it, how peaceful it will look then? The same is with terrorists in Iraq.

 

Oh, and there is no proof Saddam didn't have chemical weapons.

[Icefiddell]

Removed a nest of terrroists! What terrorists, please dont say Al Quieda because there weren't any at least before we went in. The terroists there now are mostly our doing by going in there.

 

Please say your not being serious about saying Bush has never made a mistake, my god where the hell have you been the past few years, just watch Fahrenheit 9 11.

 

Yes we removed a dictator *small woo-hoo*.................................now what????? Removing Saddam is the only good thing we did, we fought a war so that Bush could secure Oil.

 

And the way things are going it wont be long until Bush acts like a secret dictator on the Iraqie people as well.

[draighox]

Removed a nest of terrroists! What terrorists, please dont say Al Quieda because there weren't any at least before we went in. The terroists there now are mostly our doing by going in there.

Hm. If there were no terrorists hidden, then where are all these who roam Iraq now from?

 

Please say your not being serious about saying Bush has never made a mistake, my god where the hell have you been the past few years, just watch Fahrenheit 9 11.

Well, watching that Moore nonsence explains your attitude.

 

Yes we removed a dictator *small woo-hoo*.................................now what????? Removing Saddam is the only good thing we did, we fought a war so that Bush could secure Oil.

Even if the war was started for oil, it had those good consequences I have stated above. Consequences, not motives are all that matters.

 

And the way things are going it wont be long until Bush acts like a secret dictator on the Iraqie people as well.

Ha... Haha. HAHAHAHAHA!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. :laugh2:

[Akrid]

Well none of us are members of congress or part of Bush's cabinet i belive so we really cant say for sure what thier true motives are. It seems that we are in it for the oil, maybe by abusing iraq we can strengthen our economey.

 

But heres somthing the Bush supporters over looked, what about saudia aribia or how ever its spelled, thats where most terrorist are really from and we dont go there to stomp out terror, and they own much of the us economy. Funny isnt it?

 

As for Bush being a secret dictator, no I dont think so, but I also know that somtimes corrupt actions are taken by goverments our being no exeption to maintian control over themselfs. We are so trusting in our presidents arent we? Clinton wouldnt lie would he? Former president bush was honest wasnt he? Nixon? Basicly presidents are failable, and subject to act corruptly. I have every reason to belive our mission in iraq is BS at this point.

[draighox]

Well none of us are members of congress or part of Bush's cabinet i belive so we really cant say for sure what thier true motives are. It seems that we are in it for the oil, maybe by abusing iraq we can strengthen our economey.

So? Consequences, not motives are important.

 

But heres somthing the Bush supporters over looked, what about saudia aribia or how ever its spelled, thats where most terrorist are really from and we dont go there to stomp out terror, and they own much of the us economy. Funny isnt it?

Well, Iraq was USA potential enemy. Saudi Arabia wasn't.

[Zmid]

Removed a nest of terrroists! What terrorists, please dont say Al Quieda because there weren't any at least before we went in. The terroists there now are mostly our doing by going in there.

Hm. If there were no terrorists hidden, then where are all these who roam Iraq now from?

 

If they were there before Iraq's regime crumbled, where were they?

 

Please say your not being serious about saying Bush has never made a mistake, my god where the hell have you been the past few years, just watch Fahrenheit 9 11.

Well, watching that Moore nonsence explains your attitude.

 

You not seeing it explains yours.

 

Yes we removed a dictator *small woo-hoo*.................................now what????? Removing Saddam is the only good thing we did, we fought a war so that Bush could secure Oil.

Even if the war was started for oil, it had those good consequences I have stated above. Consequences, not motives are all that matters.

 

OK, fine. The US and UK went into Iraq and removed a dictator, correct, but they also bombed the living crap out of Iraq, killed a great many people, some military, many not, and their actions caused the subsequent deaths of many more civilians and caused the country to fall from a struggling, but fairly well developed country to a country that more or less has to be rebuilt from the ground up and is infested with terrorists who kill both the US and UK soldiers and the Iraqi people.

 

 

But heres somthing the Bush supporters over looked, what about saudia aribia or how ever its spelled, thats where most terrorist are really from and we dont go there to stomp out terror, and they own much of the us economy. Funny isnt it?

Well, Iraq was USA potential enemy. Saudi Arabia wasn't.

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Well, first of all, how, exactly, was Iraq going to attack America, given that even the US government now admits Iraq had no WMD?

 

Secondly, the list of 'potential' US enemies includes about half the known world, including Saudi Arabia, and many with more cause to be on that list then Iraq.

[draighox]

If they were there before Iraq's regime crumbled, where were they?

Hidden. :cool2:

 

OK, fine. The US and UK went into Iraq and removed a dictator, correct, but they also bombed the living crap out of Iraq, killed a great many people, some military, many not, and their actions caused the subsequent deaths of many more civilians and caused the country to fall from a struggling, but fairly well developed country to a country that more or less has to be rebuilt from the ground up and is infested with terrorists who kill both the US and UK soldiers and the Iraqi people.

Something like that, but I wouldn't overcolor so much. Good things outweight the bad ones.

 

Well, first of all, how, exactly, was Iraq going to attack America, given that even the US government now admits Iraq had no WMD?

Support various osamas.

 

Secondly, the list of 'potential' US enemies includes about half the known world, including Saudi Arabia, and many with more cause to be on that list then Iraq.

Nope. Less than a half. And I don't believe there was another dictator, more worthy of removal than Saddam.

[Zmid]

If they were there before Iraq's regime crumbled, where were they?

Hidden. :cool2:

 

Ah. That would be in the same way that Iraq's WMD was 'hidden'. I get you.

 

OK, fine. The US and UK went into Iraq and removed a dictator, correct, but they also bombed the living crap out of Iraq, killed a great many people, some military, many not, and their actions caused the subsequent deaths of many more civilians and caused the country to fall from a struggling, but fairly well developed country to a country that more or less has to be rebuilt from the ground up and is infested with terrorists who kill both the US and UK soldiers and the Iraqi people.

Something like that, but I wouldn't overcolor so much. Good things outweight the bad ones.

 

Let me see - on the good side, a single evil person has been removed from power. On the bad, an entire country is blown to hell and about 100,000 people are dead as a result, and it's pretty clear more are going to die. No, I would definately say, in this case, the bad ones SEVERELY outweigh the good.

 

Well, first of all, how, exactly, was Iraq going to attack America, given that even the US government now admits Iraq had no WMD?

Support various osamas.

 

Name a single terrorist organisation that directly threatened the USA that Iraq had any proven ties with.

 

Secondly, the list of 'potential' US enemies includes about half the known world, including Saudi Arabia, and many with more cause to be on that list then Iraq.

Nope. Less than a half. And I don't believe there was another dictator, more worthy of removal than Saddam.

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Gaddafi (of Libya). Kim Jong-il (of North Korea). Than Shwe (of Burma). Robert Mugabe (of Zimbabwe). Crown Prince Abdullah (of Saudi Arabia). Omar Al-Bashir (of Sudan).

 

Don't get me wrong, Saddam was evil, no doubt about it. All of the above are as bad, if not worse, though.

[draighox]

Let me see - on the good side, a single evil person has been removed from power. On the bad, an entire country is blown to hell and about 100,000 people are dead as a result, and it's pretty clear more are going to die. No, I would definately say, in this case, the bad ones SEVERELY outweigh the good.

The evil person we are talking about has killed much more people and he would be killing right now if he hadn't been removed. It's hot in Iraq now, but it was hell with Saddam.

 

Name a single terrorist organisation that directly threatened the USA that Iraq had any proven ties with.

OK, you got me with this one. Its not because there weren't any, its just because I don't know any names. Yet.

 

Gaddafi (of Libya). Kim Jong-il (of North Korea). Than Shwe (of Burma). Robert Mugabe (of Zimbabwe). Crown Prince Abdullah (of Saudi Arabia). Omar Al-Bashir (of Sudan).

Don't get me wrong, Saddam was evil, no doubt about it. All of the above are as bad, if not worse, though.

I think all of them are evil, but Saddam is the most.