Antyrael86 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hello there. I could need help with a problem. I want to use mods for skyrim. My problem is a constant CTD i´m getting. always on the same points ind the game. These points are:1. in helgen (after char creation) after you jump out of the tower and meet the little boy and the two guys. 2. shortyl after 1. when u choose with who you want to enter the building. axactly when entering the building. 3. after the escape when exiting the caves. 4. when using a savegame i can flawlessly enter any building, but i get a ctd when i want to leave it. What i did so far: I installed the mods using NMM,I used BOSS for the load.I cleaned the mods (and official addons with TES5Edit.I Used BOSS again to check again.I already have the ENBoost installed. And now to the infos i can provide. My Rig: OS: Win 7 Prof. x64CPU: AMD FX-8350GPU: NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti Boost (2GB VRAM)RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB GeiL Dragon Ram) My BOSS summary: Reveal hidden contents BOSSVersion 2.1.1======================================Summary======================================Plugin Type CountRecognised (or sorted by user rules) 47Unrecognised 0Inactive 0All 47Plugin Message Type CountWarning 0Error 0All 8* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1472899-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.* Note: The order of plugins set by BOSS differs from their order in its masterlist, as one or more of the installed plugins is false-flagged. For more information, see "file:../Docs/BOSS%20Readme.html#appendix-c False-Flagged Plugins".======================================SKSE Plugins======================================SKSE Version: 0.1.6.16CellStabilizer.dll======================================Recognised Plugins======================================These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveFalskaar.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}* Note: If you using version 2.0 of the unofficial patches but you see this message you need to download this file: userlist.txt ("https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25091645/Skyrim/userlist.txt"). After the download you need to copy this file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder or add the contents of this file to an already existing userlist.txt. Just ignore this message after updating any preexisting userlist.txt or copying the file to your 'BOSS\Skyrim\' folder.Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}HighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveUnofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveGlass Variants.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}IA6npc01.esp ActiveBetterDGEntrance.esp ActiveWyrmstooth.esp ActiveWyrmstoothTravelCrashHotfix.esp ActiveWyrmstothMapMarkerHotfix.esp Activearmored-horses.esp ActiveBook Covers Skyrim.esp ActiveBook Covers Dawnguard.esp ActiveBook Covers Hearthfire.esp ActiveBook Covers Dragonborn.esp ActiveDifferently Ebony.esp ActiveFalskaarDawnguard.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveUnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveUnique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveBeards.esp ActiveBrows.esp ActiveHothFollower.esp ActiveHothFollower UFO Patch.esp Activebarenziahquestmarkers.esp ActiveUnique Region Names.esp Active My latest papyrus log: Reveal hidden contents [12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)[12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)[12/11/2013 - 10:18:48PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)[12/11/2013 - 10:18:59PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?[12/11/2013 - 10:18:59PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?[12/11/2013 - 10:19:30PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (26003DEF) cannot be bound because (0003BDE9) is not the right type[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript OnInit[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript Maintenance[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript SKSE installed, release 44[12/11/2013 - 10:19:38PM] UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript Current Version 210, Last Version 0[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [zbloodEBTmenu ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [uBG20ConfigMenuQuestScript ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [DanceOfDeathMCMScript ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot SendStoryEvent before start up quests have been initialized.stack:[uBGStartDetectQuestKeyword (2500639D)].Keyword.SendStoryEvent() - "" Line ?[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 72[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot call HasSpell() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 75[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp5"stack:[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 75[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Error: Cannot call AddSpell() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 77[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp13"stack:[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.Maintenance() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 77[alias UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAlias on quest UBG20MaintQuest (2501156D)].UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.OnInit() - "UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 93[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_favoritesmanager ]: Updating to script version 2[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_activeeffectswidget ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [ski_activeeffectswidget ]: Updating to script version 2[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ]: Registered Immersive HUD at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [zbloodEBTmenu ]: Registered Enhanced Blood at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [uBG20ConfigMenuQuestScript ]: Registered Unread Books Glow at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [DanceOfDeathMCMScript ]: Registered Der Tanz des Todes at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 2[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 3[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 4[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 5[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 6[12/11/2013 - 10:19:39PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Updating to script version 7[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] DLC1: Starting DLC1 Initialization quest.[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] [DLC2_QF_DLC2_MQ04_02016E02 ] DLC2Init quest START[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.5 QUEST HAS STARTED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.6 QUEST HAS STARTED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:55PM] PATCH 1.9 QUEST HAS STARTED[12/11/2013 - 10:19:58PM] InitWidgetLoader()[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] [DLC2_QF_DLC2_MQ04_02016E02 ] DLC2Init quest DONE[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] [sKI_ConfigMenu ]: Registered SKY UI at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:20:02PM] PATCH 1.4 QUEST HAS STARTED[12/11/2013 - 10:20:03PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ] INITIALIZED[12/11/2013 - 10:20:03PM] [iHUDSkyUIConfigMenuScript ]: Registered Immersive HUD at MCM.[12/11/2013 - 10:23:56PM] VM is freezing...[12/11/2013 - 10:23:56PM] VM is frozen[12/11/2013 - 10:23:57PM] Saving game...[12/11/2013 - 10:23:57PM] VM is thawing...[12/11/2013 - 10:26:17PM] VM is freezing...[12/11/2013 - 10:26:17PM] VM is frozen[12/11/2013 - 10:26:18PM] Saving game...[12/11/2013 - 10:26:18PM] VM is thawing... My Skyrim.ini Reveal hidden contents [General]sLanguage=GERMANuExterior Cell Buffer=64uGridsToLoad=7iPreloadSizeLimit=51380224[Display]fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=1024bAllowScreenshot=0[Audio]fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0[Grass]iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=5bAllowCreateGrass=1bAllowLoadGrass=0[Archive]sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsasResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa[Combat]fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0[Papyrus]fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0bEnableLogging=1bEnableTrace=1bLoadDebugInformation=1[Water]bReflectLODObjects=1bReflectLODLand=1bReflectSky=1bReflectLODTrees=1 My SkyrimPrefs.ini Reveal hidden contents [General]fBrightLightColorB=1.0000fBrightLightColorG=1.0000fBrightLightColorR=1.0000iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0[imagespace]bDoDepthOfField=1iRadialBlurLevel=2[Display]iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000fShadowDistance=8000iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048iShadowSplitCount=2iMaxAnisotropy=16fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=1e+007fGamma=1.0000fDecalLOD2=1500.0000fDecalLOD1=1000.0000fSpecularLODStartFade=2000fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000fLightLODStartFade=3500iTexMipMapMinimum=0iTexMipMapSkip=0iWaterMultiSamples=0iMultiSample=8iShadowMode=3bTreesReceiveShadows=1bDrawLandShadows=1bFull Screen=1iSize H=1024iSize W=1280fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=1e+007fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=1e+007iScreenShotIndex=2bShadowMaskZPrepass=0bMainZPrepass=0iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100bFloatPointRenderTarget=1sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti BOOST"bFXAAEnabled=0iShadowMapResolution=4096fShadowBiasScale=0.15iShadowMaskQuarter=4iAdapter=0iPresentInterval=1[Grass]b30GrassVS=0fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000[MAIN]bGamepadEnable=1bCrosshairEnabled=1fHUDOpacity=1.000bSaveOnPause=1bSaveOnTravel=1bSaveOnWait=1bSaveOnRest=1[GamePlay]bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1bShowQuestMarkers=1iDifficulty=2[interface]bDialogueSubtitles=0bGeneralSubtitles=0[Controls]fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125bAlwaysRunByDefault=1bInvertYValues=0bGamePadRumble=1bMouseAcceleration=1[Particles]iMaxDesired=750[saveGame]fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000[AudioMenu]fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000fVal7=1.0000uID7=0fVal6=1.0000uID6=0fVal5=1.0000uID5=0fVal4=1.0000uID4=0fVal3=1.0000uID3=0fVal2=0.4000uID2=466532fVal1=1.0000uID1=554685fVal0=0.8000uID0=1007612[Clouds]fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000[TerrainManager]fTreeLoadDistance=75000fBlockMaximumDistance=250000fBlockLevel1Distance=70000fBlockLevel0Distance=35000fSplitDistanceMult=1.5bShowLODInEditor=0[NavMesh]fObstacleAlpha=0.5000fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000fEdgeThickness=10.0000fPointSize=2.5000[Trees]bRenderSkinnedTrees=1uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20[Decals]uMaxDecals=1000bDecals=1bSkinnedDecals=1uMaxSkinDecals=100uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60[LOD]fLODFadeOutMultObjects=15fLODFadeOutMultItems=15fLODFadeOutMultActors=15[Launcher]bEnableFileSelection=1bShowAllResolutions=1uLastAspectRatio=2[blurShaderHDR]bDoHighDynamicRange=1[blurShader]bUseBlurShader=0 Any suggestion? 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CookieDoeh Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp Active But i cant see ur using UFO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) now that u point it. :smile: i uninstalled UFO since i thought it was the troublemaker. i´ll give it a try. Edited December 11, 2013 by Antyrael86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nope. ctd at point 1. in the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 By the way: Is there actually a good way to post ALL mods i have installed? Since BOSS only show the ones with plugins for the load order but by far not all installed mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniax2 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) I believe that you are using a wrong load order for the Unofficial Patches which is strange since you are using BOSS this is mine: Quote These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveDawnguard.esm ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveHearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active also what is that skse plugin you have there "CellStabilizer.dll" i ask because usually the Cell Spawns are very delicate to manipulate and that causes plenty of random ctds in outdoors...is that from the mod Stable uGridsToLoad by Altimor? if you have uGridstoLoad above 5 that also gives a lot of instability... Edited December 12, 2013 by Maniax2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemongelRex Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The starting intro quest of the game is very sensitive to mods and you should only install the bare minimum of mods such as overhauls, and UI changes. Uninstall the following and start a new game: The Static Mesh Improvement esp's are not necessary; they are covered in the Unofficial Patches. You shouldn't use the Bethesda High-Res Pack, use the ones on the nexus. You can get rid of 4 esp's that way. Uninstall all quest mods and follower mods (Such as Falskaar and Wyrmstooth) and the barenziah quest markers. And uninstall all mods that you won't need immediately, like the alternate Dawnguard Entrance. Finally, cut down on some Hi-Res files and use ENBoost. Tell us your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 yes, the CellStabilizer is from Altimor´s uGridsToLoad. i deleted it. Didn´t change anything. I reduced my uGridstoLoad back to 5. Didn´t change anything. I corrected my load order by hand to look like your post. Didn´t change anything. i try with a new game everytime. and i always get ctd at point 1. in my original post. I am kinda getting sick to see the lots and lots of videos of people playing skyrim with a whole bunch of mods and seeing me not able to run a handful of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 On 12/12/2013 at 11:07 AM, DemongelRex said: The starting intro quest of the game is very sensitive to mods and you should only install the bare minimum of mods such as overhauls, and UI changes. Uninstall the following and start a new game: The Static Mesh Improvement esp's are not necessary; they are covered in the Unofficial Patches. You shouldn't use the Bethesda High-Res Pack, use the ones on the nexus. You can get rid of 4 esp's that way. Uninstall all quest mods and follower mods (Such as Falskaar and Wyrmstooth) and the barenziah quest markers. And uninstall all mods that you won't need immediately, like the alternate Dawnguard Entrance. Finally, cut down on some Hi-Res files and use ENBoost. Tell us your results. Okay. i´ll do that. c ya later then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antyrael86 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 and again ctd. this time at point 2. in my original post. i removed ALL mods and then just inserted the ones necessary in the beginning (UNP body, eyes, brows, beards) and the unofficial patches.i also removed the official high-res pack. and therefore i didn´t use the unofficial high-res patch either. and i have ENBoost running with these settings: englobal.ini Reveal hidden contents [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll[GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=trueUseDefferedRendering=falseForceFakeVideocard=false[PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=true[MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0[MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=trueReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=256VideoMemorySizeMb=1920EnableCompression=true[WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false[ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16EnableVSync=trueAddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false[LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=trueFPSLimit=60.0[iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0[ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=falseEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=falseEnableTransparencyAA=false[FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixAliasedTextures=trueIgnoreLoadingScreen=falseIgnoreInventory=trueFixSsaoWaterTransparency=trueFixSsaoHairTransparency=trueFixTintGamma=trueRemoveBlur=trueFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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