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Yet another load order topic & merged patch question

Matt714

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I tried creating a merged patch, but it doesn't work. The menu stalls at the Brotherhood soldier and I have to ALT+DEL, which crashes the game. The Eve.esp is from an older version of Eve (probably asking for trouble ^_^), since RobCo didn't even load without it in FO3Edit

 

To be honest I haven't had many problems, just that I seemingly can't talk to the K-9 dog added by FOOK. I believe that's a conflict with Ties that Bind, since during the birthday party scene he's not at his usual location (behind the door rather than next to Gomez)

 

Mod list:

 

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
Impervious Power Armour.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
EVE.esm
FOOK2 - Main.ESM
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Companion Core.esm
RobCo Certified v2.esm
Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
FO3 NPCs Travel.esp
CASM.esp
Sprint Mod.esp
NME_Main.esp
NME_DLC_Combined.esp
NME_Slaver_Plugin.esp
Auto Aim Fix v1.1.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
BusworldV1.05d.esp
CrowdedCities_v2.esp
CrowdedCities, RefurbishDLC - patch.esp
NPC Height Randomizer Less Variance.esp
MiniHideout.esp
Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp
UndergroundHideout.esp
TiesThatBind.esp
FOOK2 - Main.esp
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp
FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp
FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
Companion Core DLC Addon.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Version Updater.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Mechanist's Edition.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.esp
EVE.esp
Imperfection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
MMM, FOOK2.esp
MMM, FOOK2 - DIK.esp
MMM, FOOK2 - Natural Selection.esp
BoS Diversification.esp
BOC Diversification.esp
TimeScaleTo5.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
FO3 Error Fixes.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main + DLC Merged.esp
Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Sandstorms.esp
WeatherGroupScriptTest.esp
RobCo Certified v2 EVE.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Omnipatch.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Impervious.esp
Total active plugins: 83
Total plugins: 83
As such, with that many mods, I'm probably responsible for my own problems (lol).
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No main menu is usually an orphaned record. A record that is no longer present in a plugin's master or has been repurposed and is of a different formtype now. Odds are that you are looking for an outdated compatibility patch.

 

And in your case, it is possibly my own patch...try to start the game without "CrowdedCities, RefurbishDLC - patch.esp" enabled. Is "Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp" for MMM 6.x?

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Game works fine without merged patch. However with it, it locks at the Brotherhood soldier. I can only ALT-TAB, and Fallout3.exe crashes then. Without it, it runs, but I read that a merged patch is a panacea for clashes between mods.

 

I have the latest version of MMM (at least the most recent one on the Nexus (in my mind, most recent is better - maybe not?). I read somewhere else that some of its included plugins are redundant, tho.

 

On a side note, maybe I should uninstall EVE since it's apparently included in FOOK2? Or the newer version will overwrite the whole thing.

 

I'l try unticking your patch (thanks for uploading it, btw) and create another MP.

 

Thanks again for the help.

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Tweaked load order. Was getting insta-crashes when I opened Pip-Boy either when it came to items or apparel.

 

Removed FO3 Error Fixes.esp since it is apparently redundant, with the new Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch. Now it insta-crashes when I try to open any game?!

 

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
Impervious Power Armour.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
EVE.esm
FOOK2 - Main.ESM
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Companion Core.esm
RobCo Certified v2.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
FO3 NPCs Travel.esp
CASM.esp
Sprint Mod.esp
NME_Main.esp
NME_DLC_Combined.esp
NME_Slaver_Plugin.esp
Auto Aim Fix v1.1.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
BusworldV1.05d.esp
CrowdedCities_v2.esp
CrowdedCities, RefurbishDLC - patch.esp
NPC Height Randomizer Less Variance.esp
MiniHideout.esp
Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp
UndergroundHideout.esp
TiesThatBind.esp
FOOK2 - Main.esp
FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp
FOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].esp
FOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
Companion Core DLC Addon.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Version Updater.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Mechanist's Edition.esp
Imperfection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
MMM, FOOK2.esp
MMM, FOOK2 - DIK.esp
MMM, FOOK2 - Natural Selection.esp
BoS Diversification.esp
BOC Diversification.esp
TimeScaleTo5.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp
Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp
F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Omnipatch.esp
RobCo Certified v2 Impervious.esp
Flora Overhaul.esp
Total active plugins: 74
Total plugins: 74
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"BoS Diversification.esp" has a deleted reference that FOOK2 will call in a quest script which is not a good thing. The diversification of NPC weapons and armor is quite good in FOOK2. You might consider not using those other two diversification mods.
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