Enhanced Solitude issues

[Xyncxxx]

Hey all, looking for a bit of help. I've got some mods installed that affect the Tamriel worldspace around solitude, namely Enhanced Solitude, ES Docks, and associated patches. I've also got a ton of other s#*! installed, and have flagged as many as ESL as I feel confident is safe. The issue I'm having is that something is reverting the worldspace partially, and including vanilla terrain where there should be none.

My load order is as follows:

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 ccbgssse001-fish.esm
254 FE 0 ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
254 FE 1 ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
254 FE 2 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 3 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
254 FE 4 ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
254 FE 5 ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
254 FE 6 Landscape and Water Fixes.esp
8 8 Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
9 9 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
10 a Enhanced Solitude SSE.esp
11 b Enhanced Solitude Docks.esp
12 c Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp
13 d Campfire.esm
14 e RaceCompatibility.esm
15 f AyleidCitadel.esp
16 10 RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
17 11 Resources - The Great Cities.esp
254 FE 7 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
18 12 ApachiiHair.esm
19 13 FISS.esp
20 14 GeneralStores.esm
254 FE 8 UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp
254 FE 9 UHDAP - en2.esp
254 FE a UHDAP - en3.esp
254 FE b UHDAP - en4.esp
254 FE c UHDAP - en0.esp
254 FE d UHDAP - en1.esp
254 FE e SkyUI_SE.esp
21 15 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
254 FE f Unique Region Names.esp
22 16 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
23 17 The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns.esp
24 18 The Great City of Winterhold v4.esp
254 FE 10 TGC Winterhold - The Great Cities patch.esp
25 19 JKs Skyrim.esp
26 1a COTN - Falkreath.esp
27 1b Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
254 FE 11 Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp
28 1c COTN - Dawnstar.esp
COTN Dawnstar - JK's Skyrim - TGC Dawnstar Patch.esp
29 1d COTN - Morthal.esp
30 1e amma'svlindrelhall_1.5.esp
254 FE 12 COTN Falkreath - TGC patch.esp
31 1f COTN - Winterhold.esp
32 20 The Great Cities of JK's North - Patch.esp
254 FE 13 TGCotN Winterhold.esp
254 FE 14 COTN Winterhold - The Great Cities Patch.esp
254 FE 15 TGCotN Winterhold - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
33 21 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
34 22 COTN Morthal - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
COTN Morthal - JKs Skyrim - The Great City of Morthal Patch.esp
254 FE 16 COTN Falkreath - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp
254 FE 17 COTN Winterhold - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
254 FE 18 LoS II - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
35 23 RLO - Exteriors.esp
254 FE 19 COTN Dawnstar - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
36 24 EconomyOverhaulCellsandWorldspacesEditsAddon.esp
37 25 DT_Hjertesten Hall.esp
254 FE 1a Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - LFfGM.esp
38 26 Hunterborn.esp
39 27 RE_RealEstate.esp
40 28 EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp
254 FE 1b Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE.esp
41 29 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
42 2a Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged.esp
254 FE 1c ESD Terrain Patch.esp
254 FE 1d ES Terrain Patch.esp
254 FE 1e ES ESD Patch.esp
43 2b FortHighwood01.esp
44 2c SnowElfPalace.esp
254 FE 1f Enhanced Solitude SSE - LoS II patch.esp
45 2d Cloaks.esp
46 2e The Blackest Reaches.esp
47 2f RiversideLodge.esp
48 30 Inigo.esp
254 FE 20 DBM_EnhancedSolitude_Patch.esp
49 31 CitizensComplete.esp
50 32 ShadowstarCastle.esp
254 FE 21 JKs Skyrim Leafrest Patch.esp
51 33 AyleidPalaceNEW.esp
52 34 MoonstoneCastle.esp
254 FE 22 DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 23 COTN Falkreath - JKs Skyrim - LOTD Patch.esp
254 FE 24 MapMarkerTreasureDBM.esp
53 35 Immersive Weapons.esp
254 FE 25 Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp
54 36 ACatsLife.esp
55 37 BrhuceLegacy.esp
56 38 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
57 39 WinterstoneCastle.esp
58 3a HF_Lakeview_AvantGarden_EX.esp
59 3b Frostfall.esp
254 FE 26 DBM_IW_Patch.esp
60 3c TheEnigmaticTower.esp
61 3d WayOfTheMonk.esp
62 3e DragonBlood Manor.esp
63 3f KnightsRest.esp
64 40 Mirele Bismath Reborn.esp
65 41 Missives.esp
254 FE 27 Missives - JK Skyrim.esp
66 42 LeafRest OnePiece.esp
254 FE 28 COTN Dawnstar - JKs Skyrim - Lanterns of Skyrim II Patch.esp
67 43 Undriel_Ebongrove.esp
254 FE 29 A Cat's life - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
68 44 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
69 45 Immersive Patrols II.esp
70 46 HF_Heljarchen_PHB_EX.esp
71 47 HavranCastle.esp
254 FE 2a CotNDS - Door Patch.esp
254 FE 2b Real Estate USSEP.esp
254 FE 2c WACCF_Survival Mode_Patch.esp
254 FE 2d DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE 2e BetterQuestObjectives.esp
254 FE 2f SkyRem Economy.esp
254 FE 30 EconomyOverhaul CV - WACCF Patch.esp
72 48 TradeRoutes.esp
73 49 blackreachrailroadnew.esp
254 FE 31 blackreachcabinmetal.esp
74 4a drachenhaus village.esp
COTN Dawnstar - Morskom Estate Patch.esp
75 4b AyleidSanctuary.esp
76 4c StendarrRetreat.esp
254 FE 32 DynamicTreasureMapJournal - DBM.esp
254 FE 33 COTN Dawnstar - Lanterns of Skyrim II Patch.esp
77 4d Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp
78 4e TrainFight.esp
254 FE 34 LimbwoodManor.esp
254 FE 35 Enhanced Solitude SSE USSEP Patch.esp
79 4f SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp
254 FE 36 ESD LOS II patch.esp
80 50 Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
254 FE 37 HunterbornSoupsStews - SunHelm Patch.esp
81 51 SunHelmSurvival.esp
254 FE 38 ES and LoTD Collision Planes.esp
254 FE 39 DusksCabin.esp
254 FE 3a Landscape For Grass Mods - The Great Cities PATCH.esp
82 52 Chambers.esp
83 53 SnowElfHut.esp
84 54 WM Flora Fixes.esp
85 55 DovahRiderCart.esp
254 FE 3b COTN Falkreath - A Cats Life patch.esp
86 56 SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
254 FE 3c COTN Dawnstar - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
254 FE 3d TGC Winterhold - LOTD patch.esp
254 FE 3e TGC Winterhold - LAWF Patch.esp
254 FE 3f UniqueRegionNames_LOTD.esp
254 FE 40 COTN Morthal - LOTD Patch.esp
87 57 House Map Markers Legendary.esp
88 58 DG_Island.esp
254 FE 41 COTN Winterhold - JKs - Landscape and Water Patch.esp
254 FE 42 DBM_TheGreatCitiesMinor_Patch.esp
254 FE 43 COTN Winterhold - LOTD Patch.esp
254 FE 44 DBM_Missives_Patch.esp
254 FE 45 LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
89 59 Nhathdarm Hall.esp
90 5a Aethernautics.esp
254 FE 46 TGC Winterhold - Missives patch.esp
254 FE 47 COTN Falkreath - Missives patch.esp
254 FE 48 FortHighwoodMine.esp
254 FE 49 COTN Morthal - Landscape and Water Fixes Patch.esp
254 FE 4a Horses for Followers.esp
254 FE 4b LoS II - USSEP patch.esp
254 FE 4c LoS II - LotD patch.esp
254 FE 4d LoS II - Campfire addon.esp
254 FE 4e COTN Falkreath - CC - Fishing Patch.esp
254 FE 4f COTN Falkreath - CC - Elven Hunter Armor patch.esp
254 FE 50 COTN Falkreath - Cloaks Patch.esp
91 5b UnreadBooksGlow.esp
254 FE 51 DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp
254 FE 52 DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp
254 FE 53 DBM_BlackreachRailroad_Patch.esp
254 FE 54 DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp
254 FE 55 DBM_IA_Patch.esp
254 FE 56 Better Skill and Quest Books Names SE.esp
254 FE 57 BCS_BSQBN _Patch.esp
254 FE 58 MBO.esp
92 5c Nemesis PCEA.esp
254 FE 59 Keytrace.esp
254 FE 5a COTN Morthal - Skyrim Immersive Creatures Patch.esp
254 FE 5b COTN Morthal - CC - Fishing Patch.esp
254 FE 5c ESD SMIM SSE Merged All patch.esp
254 FE 5d COTN Dawnstar - Skyrim Reputation Patch.esp
254 FE 5e COTN Dawnstar - SIC SE Patch.esp
254 FE 5f COTN Dawnstar - Cloaks of Skyrim Patch.esp
254 FE 60 COTN Dawnstar - Citizens of Tamriel Patch.esp
254 FE 61 TGCotN Winterhold - Cloaks of Skyrim patch.esp
254 FE 62 TGC Winterhold - Citizens of Tamriel patch.esp
254 FE 63 COTN Winterhold - Cloaks Patch.esp
254 FE 64 BeastHHBB.esp
254 FE 65 BeastHHBB - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
93 5d FabLookEyesSSE.esp
254 FE 66 Project ja-Kha'jay- Khajiit Diversity.esp
254 FE 67 JKJ - USSEP Patch.esp
94 5e Saeri_Khajiit_Hair.esp
254 FE 68 COTN Morthal - Cloaks Patch.esp
95 5f Fashions of the Banditry.esp
254 FE 69 SOSPhysicsManager.esp
254 FE 6a RaceMenu.esp
254 FE 6b CBBE.esp
254 FE 6c RaceMenuPlugin.esp
254 FE 6d RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE 6e 3BBB.esp
254 FE 6f TheEnigmaticTower-ccSurvivalCompatibilityPatch.esp
254 FE 70 Dovahnique's High Poly Inigo.esp
254 FE 71 THMeeko.esp
96 60 MGHaven.esp
254 FE 72 BlackestRailroadPatch.esp
254 FE 73 The Blackest Reaches - USSEP Patch.esp
97 61 bm_SimpleAction.esp
254 FE 74 EconomyOverhaul CV - CloaksOfSkyrim Patch.esp
254 FE 75 EconomyOverhaul CV - EvenBetterQuestObjectives Patch.esp
254 FE 76 EconomyOverhaul CV - Missives Patch.esp
254 FE 77 BetterQuestObjectives - LOTD Patch.esp
254 FE 78 BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp
254 FE 79 Shops Sell Paper.esp
254 FE 7a TradeRoutes-Patch-EconomyOverhaulandSpeechcraftImprovements.esp
254 FE 7b TradeRoutes-Patch-LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
254 FE 7c DTMJ DBM - Marked Treasure.esp
98 62 TakeNotes.esp
254 FE 7d widescreen_skyui_fix.esp
254 FE 7e Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
254 FE 7f MCMHelper.esp
254 FE 80 SkyHUD.esp
99 63 EasyWheel-AIO.esp
254 FE 81 EWM_SunhelmSurvivalSE.esp
100 64 SunHelmCampfireSkill.esp
101 65 SunHelmDiseases.esp
254 FE 82 HelmetHider.esp
102 66 UIExtensions.esp
254 FE 83 CC-Fishing_WACCF_Patch.esp
103 67 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
254 FE 84 Cloaks_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE 85 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE 86 SIC WACCF Patch.esp
104 68 Vivid WeathersSE.esp
254 FE 87 oDo_MiscShops.esp
105 69 DragonKillerCartSE.esp
254 FE 88 EWM_DragonKillerCart.esp
254 FE 89 PaperInkCrafting.esp
254 FE 8a Runandwalkpaces.esp
254 FE 8b PaperInkCrafting - less scarcity.esp
106 6a DWKaPoTunRace.esp
254 FE 8c DWKaPoTunRaceCompatibilityADDON.esp
254 FE 8d 50 More Perk Points.esp
107 6b Beards.esp
254 FE 8e BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
108 6c Bijin Warmaidens.esp
254 FE 8f Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
109 6d 12FemaleBrows.esp
110 6e Footprints.esp
111 6f HalfGiantRace.esp
254 FE 90 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
254 FE 91 HPP - FirewoodSnow Campfire.esp
254 FE 92 HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp
112 70 Inventory Management System.esp
113 71 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
254 FE 93 InigoWhistleKey.esp
114 72 KS Hairdo's.esp
254 FE 94 Mundus.esp
254 FE 95 Lost Races of Aetherius.esp
254 FE 96 LRoA - SeaElfNPCAddon.esp
254 FE 97 MundusUSSEP.esp
254 FE 98 Perk Points and More Gold for Bounty Quests.esp
254 FE 99 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
254 FE 9a Racial Body Morphs.esp
115 73 RLO - Effects.esp
116 74 Moonlight Tales Mini.esp
254 FE 9b HammarStation.esp
117 75 railroadfight.esp
254 FE 9c icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
254 FE 9d sandboxcylinderheight.esp
118 76 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
119 77 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
120 78 TimingIsEverything.esp
254 FE 9e aetherstation.esp
121 79 XPMSE.esp
254 FE 9f FNIS.esp
122 7a (SGC) SkySA.esp
254 FE a0 cortexmine.esp
Unique Uniques_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE a1 Aetherius.esp
123 7b Trade & Barter.esp
254 FE a2 EconomyOverhaul CV - TradeandBarter Patch.esp
254 FE a3 DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp
254 FE a4 TradeRoutes-Patch-TradeAndBarter.esp
124 7c Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
254 FE a5 EconomyOverhaul CV - Ordinator Patch.esp
254 FE a6 Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp
125 7d Sacrilege - Minimalistic Vampires of Skyrim.esp
254 FE a7 Sacrilege - Fishing Compatibility Patch.esp
126 7e Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
254 FE a8 COTN Falkreath - Immersive Citizens patch.esp
254 FE a9 COTN Dawnstar - JKs Skyrim - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch.esp
254 FE aa The Great Cities - Minor Cities and Towns Falkreath ICAO Patch.esp
254 FE ab COTN Morthal - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
254 FE ac TGCotN Winterhold - Immersive Citizens patch.esp
254 FE ad JK's Skyrim - IC Dawnstar Patch.esp
254 FE ae COTN Winterhold - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp
254 FE af Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp
127 7f Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
254 FE b0 UniqueRegionNames_AltStart.esp
254 FE b1 COTN Falkreath - Alternate Start Patch.esp
254 FE b2 COTN Dawnstar - Alternate Start LAL Patch.esp
254 FE b3 TGC Winterhold - Alternate Start patch.esp
254 FE b4 COTN Morthal - Alternate Start Patch.esp
254 FE b5 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
254 FE b6 Race Compatibility Dialogue SSE - ASLAL.esp
128 80 RLO - Interiors.esp
254 FE b7 RLO - IC Patch.esp
254 FE b8 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
254 FE b9 RLO - VIS Patch.esp
254 FE ba Bashed Patch, 0.esp
254 FE bb Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 

As far as I can tell from creation kit and xEdit, something is reverting changes to the worldspace around -17, 24 and a few cells around it, but I can't for the life of me figure out what, or how to fix it. The closest post I found to what sounded like a similar issue was https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/9487233-unexplainable-terrain-in-whiterun/?hl=%2Bremove+%2Bterrain but I'm struggling to figure out where to find and/or change whatever landscape reference is making this happen.

 

ANY help would be appreciated.

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Xyncxxx

[7531Leonidas]

If you have More Informative Console ( https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19250 ), you can simply get close to the differing terrain types, open the console, and click on the terrain. You will get information that includes the last mod to have changed that bit of terrain. It helped me disable some conflicting areas in Arthmoor's Oakwood, where some terrain had been gashed by another mod.

 

It should not be a problem to install, if you already use SKSE and the Address Library for your Skyrim SE version.