The ground is gone...

[SiniVII]

There is no grass, no ground, no solid rock, only empty walls floating in the air and a few floating doors as I am swimming in the water I never knew existed beneath the Oblivion ground. When I am inside houses the floor is in place. Nothing wrong with interiors. But in city's and the general wild, there is nothing. Every NPC is swimming in what reminds me off a giant sea, The imperial city walls are floating in the air, boats are gone, everything. Only a few unfilled objects around here and there.

 

Ohwell atleast I finally got my CM partner working...

 

This is a massive problem I really can't put my finger on. Basically, there is no ground.

[BossDweebe]

Is the sky falling too ??? Sorry -

 

So what have you done lately ?

LOD changes ?

Do earlier saves work ?

[bben46]

A mod load order might help us figure it out.

 

Getting a load order list from OBMM

 

Of course you have to be running OBMM first to do this.

 

On the right, click on the box that says Import/Export

 

Select the top entry on the drop down list, View Load Order

 

Your load order will be displayed. Note that any inactive mods will not show in the list.

 

On the top left, click in the disk icon – a save box will pop up.

 

First you need to tell it where to save your list – the desktop is a good place and easy to find.

 

Next, go down to the second block at the bottom to select the save as type:

Pick Plain Text (*.Txt)

 

Now, in the File name block type in a name, such as Load List-1

 

Copy and paste the load order directly into to your post.

 

If you want to keep a copy for your own use, make a text file and past the same list into it.

 

Then 'save as' and give it a name that you will remember, such as Load list-1.txt

 

Be sure to manually input that you are using OBMM and if you are using them, OBSE and Wrye Bash as they are not really mods, but utility programs and will not show in the list.

 

BOSS is another utility, also used outside of the game. If you are using BOSS, you will need OBMM also as any mod not recognized by BOSS will be placed at the end of the load order. OBMM will allow manual placing of mods in the load order.

[SiniVII]

I am using BOSS, OBSE and Wrye Bash. Although I am not sure what BOSS does... And no earlier saves are messed up.

 

 

Load Order:

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

UnnecessaryViolence.esm

AFC v2 Core.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

IlluminationWithout.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp

Corthian Akavir Clothing.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

JG Elven.esp

FF7 Weapons.esp

DMCWeapons.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

MagicElvenCapes1a.esp

Dreadweave Complete_Heavy.esp

Dreadweave Complete_Light.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Lingerie HGEC.esp

Romuska Fantasy Store.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

SwordDancer.esp

alllll61s-blueness lion armor.esp

ExnemRuneskulls.esp

Lynges_Thieves_Highway-10256.esp

Lycanthrope.esp

ChaseCameraMod.esp

P-Froggys Wall Climbing EV.esp

ptThrowingWeapons.esp

Faster Level Up x3.esp

FasterArrows225.esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

SpellSinger.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp

Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp

CuteElf11.esp

Kosai's Hellcats.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp

Combined Races, Eyes and Hairv2.esp

Soya 4 Hair Pack - English.esp

babehair_EV.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Brighter_Torches.esp

Thieves Arsenal.esp

Toaster's Legendary Mastery.esp

AFC v2 Combo Chains.esp

AFC v2 Damage Text.esp

AFC v2 Combat Moves.esp

AFC v2 Locational Damage.esp

AFC v2 Gauntlet Weaponry.esp

Darkbrotherhood.esp

OTEP - Aleswell.esp

AnvilBayExpansion.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

Goblin Realswords+Tribal Shields.esp

RealSwords - Bosmer HI-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Nord HI-NPC SI.esp

RealSwords - Breton HI-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Khajiit HI-NPC v1.3.esp

RealSwords - Orc HI_NPC v1.0.esp

RealSwords - Argonian HI-NPC.esp

RealSwords - Redguard HI-NPC.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

Knights.esp

Malevolent.esp

GTAesgaard.esp

HeartOftheDead.esp

RealisticLeveling.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp

DAJadeTabaxi.esp

Maigrets House Cats.esp

Sin's Personal CM Partner.esp

[sIN] Personal - VFirst.esp

eyja.esp

Tyler's Hungry, Thirsty, Sleepy, Tired.esp

Aquafina.esp

Ahtata_Khabaxi.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

JOJOeffect.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

personality_idles4.esp

No psychic guards harder v1.2.esp

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

SW01.esp

SW01Plus.esp

[bben46]

If the earlier saves are Ok, then it's something that happened or was changed between the last good save and now.

 

Something changed. There is a function in OBMM that will show what saves were active for each save. and the load order for each save. Including the streamsaves from the streamline mod, your last autosave and a backup autosave (one autosave before the last autosave) If you have had multiple characters, each will have their own set of saves here. But only the last character used will have the autosaves.

 

Open OBMM, look on the right and click 'Utilities' on the menu click 'Save Manager' Every save you have will be in the list. In the load order that was used.

 

From the OBMM help

Save games are colour coded. Red saves are dependent on plugin which are not currently active. Saves turn orange if a plugin is active which the save does not depend on. Green saves mean that the active plugin list matches up with the save exactly.

 

Plugins are also colour coded. Green plugins are active. Red plugins are inactive. Black plugins mean that the plugin file could not be found

 

Click on the last good save and record the list. If you figure out how to copy and paste from here let me know.

Now click on a bad save and compare them.

[SiniVII]

Allright, updates to my problem. The older saves are... Having the same issue. Objects floating, the ground is gone. But thats the problem! Only the GROUND! (Ground made by mother earth of tamriel hopefully) is gone. Streets and stuff are still in place, since they are different objects and is separate from the vanilla ground itself! Which means that I can walk on the sidestreets in let's say: Chorrol, Skingrad, ETC. Havent tried the imperial city yet but I guess it's the same.

 

Poking around in the folders I hoped to find a missing folder or something, but there are so many adds I can't tell which is vanilla and mods.

I also tried turning on every ESP to see if one of the MOD's contained the files I needed to fix it, But there was no luck. So I am a little afraid a clean install might be my only option unless I can get the ground working again. I think I have a missing file since the ground is gone, if I can find it I think I'm saved.

 

Question though: If I do a clean install, can I still use my old saves? I've had issues where I do a clean install but can't use my old saves since they just crash.