Opinions/Suggestions on a gaming pc build

[Joemez]

Thanks again, Rennn, for the input.

I've been having trouble deciding how to spread my budget around without feeling like I've gone too cheap on some components. So I've decided to increase my budget to ~$1600. The current plan (14/1/12) reflects that. At this point, do you guys have suggestions as to a better monitor? Try to keep in mind, including taxes I'm just under my new budget goal, and I'd rather not go over it by too much...

 

EDIT: Anyone have opinions/suggestions with regards to a hybrid hard drive/SSD (SSHD)? It's bothering me that I'm spending the most by a fair amount on the SSD.

 

Of course, any other suggestions are appreciated.

 

~Joemez

[Thor.]

Hybrid ssd's are not all that great, but if you want speed and performance ssd's is the way to go. hybrid ssd's still rely on mechanical parts.. The cache can get full to if you are planning on shuffling lots of data, sense some if not most usually have something around 16mb cache to 8mb cache depending what models you are planning on getting.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Thor.

[FMod]

 

The current plan (14/1/12) reflects that.

Right.

Better to just repost new builds, the first post is long enough already.

 

H87: Go back to Z87 Pro3. While all mobos on the same chipset are ~same, H87 doesn't support OC at all, it can't mount a PCI-E SSD, and price difference is too small. Plus, you'll have a hard time reselling an H87.

 

 

It's bothering me that I'm spending the most by a fair amount on the SSD.

You can get a 256GB SSD then, it's cheaper.

But you'll really want a HDD with that, you can manage on 480 (although you won't be able to store movies etc), not on 256.

 

Video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775

It says $250 after $10 rebate with free shipping, which beats the hell out of $280+$12 shipping. Asus DC2 760 overclocks a little bit less than the EVGA, but not $42 worth of less.

[Rennn]

 

 

Video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775

It says $250 after $10 rebate with free shipping, which beats the hell out of $280+$12 shipping. Asus DC2 760 overclocks a little bit less than the EVGA, but not $42 worth of less.

 

 

That's slightly slower for a slightly higher cost than the EVGA GTX 760 SC I recommended...

Mine was otherwise identical, but at 1.07Ghz instead of your 1.06Ghz, and $249 instead of your $269.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Rennn

[FMod]

That's slightly slower for a slightly higher cost than the EVGA GTX 760 SC I recommended...

Mine was otherwise identical, but at 1.07Ghz instead of your 1.06Ghz, and $249 instead of your $269.

 

It said $249.99 when I originally suggested it, and it was still $249.99 when I made the previous post.

w/e, I guess the offer has ended.

[Joemez]

Thanks again for all the input guys!

Just a few more points I'd like input on. I've swapped to this for a monitor: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

As far as I understand, it's a rather decent monitor - much better than the initial one I was looking at. Opinions?

 

Second: Should I go with the Asus or EVGA GTX 760? From what I can tell the Asus would have better cooling - meaning it could be easily overclocked to overcome the stock EVGA, is that not so? The EVGA card would be ~$10 more than the Asus for me. From what (little) I know, the Asus looks to be the better deal to me, due to the cooling and therefore increased overclockability.

EDIT: Fmod's statement a few posts ago shows my opinion on the Asus's overclockability is incorrect. Other than that, though, opinions?

 

Asus: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121775&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

EVGA:http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130932&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

 

Since it's kinda pointless to go with a H87 motherboard simply to save ~$12, I'll take Fmod's suggestion and go with the Z87 I was looking at initially. Since I'll be getting a board that supports overclocking, should I dole out the extra ~$40 to get a i5-4670k over a i5-4570? I don't plan to overclock, but who knows how I'll feel once I've built it?

 

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157370&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

i5-4570: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116896&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

i5-4670k: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899&AID=10657534&PID=3938566&SID=&nm_mc=AFC-C8junctionCA

 

Barring swapping out the video card per manufacturer and the CPU possibly being changed, here's what it seems the build will be:

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/JoeMez/saved/3qMq

 

With shipping and taxes, this comes up to ~$1590.

Just out of curiosity, approximately how future-resistant is this build? I mean, I'd probably change the video card within four years anyway... and there's always a little wiggle room for upgrading.

 

~Joemez

[kalikka]

 

Usually people are too brief, but there is such a thing as being too verbose... At least when asking questions.

 

Why is everyone trying to skimp on the display like it's something they'll just use to check if the PC is working and otherwise not bother with?

 

"Hands on" is rarely helpful, and if you want a monitor under $150, all you're getting is something that works, so you can as well just take that one.

That said, if you do want a hands on... I guess go check that it lights up when you plug it in - would be unpleasant if it doesn't.

 

I was actually going to recommend that he spend a lot more on the monitor. I consider that to be the most important part of a PC, upgrading my monitor in the past has *always* been a bigger upgrade than replacing my video card. However, since he's already borderline over his budget I just decided to recommend a ~$150 monitor that'll at least give him tolerable IQ.

 

I would choose a $500 monitor with no SSD over a $200 monitor + $300 SSD any day, but I figured that would just start an argument in his question.

 

As for SSDs themselves... They're all so fast your CPU will be the bottleneck in loading, so he should just get the SSD that's least likely to break or be DOA.

I would choose 300$ speakers instead of the 500$ monitor without blinking an eye.

Quality speakers/headphones can easily last a decade.

 

I still can't understand why ppl even try to talk about SSD with games, SSD is the monster that makes everything else than the games butter smooth.

Edited January 20, 2014 by kalikka