KzinistZerg Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 P.S. As one of the ways AIDS is transmitted is blood transfusion, why not to condemn it? ...because anyone who is intelligent checks blood for impurities and diseases before they transmit it.... "Gott ist mit uns" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for your lesson of german...Anyway I just forgot one "t" (Got instead of Gott)http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2004/942 I agree that " anyone who is intelligent checks blood for impurities and diseases before they transmit it....". Unfortunately this is not the case, as thousands of people all over the word have been infected through transfusions of blood...Even now 1-2% of transfusions are at risk (before 1985 much more) Transfusions. HIV seems to be present in most of the components of human blood; red and white blood cells, platelets, which help blood clotting and scab formation, and plasma. People receiving blood transfusions have caught AIDS from whole blood and from blood components, including platelets, red blood cells, plasma, and clotting factor concentrates manufactured for hemophiliacs. Neither pasteurized (heat-treated) albumin gamma-globulin nor other immunoglobulins (blood proteins isolated and transfused into ill patients) have been reported to transmit HIV. In 1985, a blood-screening test became available to blood testing centers. Though not 100% accurate, this test enables them to screen all blood donations for HIV. The test, however, had an unfortunate side effect. Individuals started donating blood in order to find out if they were HIV infected. Fortunately, now we have anonymous, free testing clinics in many locales rendering this practice unnecessary. By current accounts, the blood test, which finds HIV antibodies, is close to perfect (reportedly 99.9% accurate), but it is not perfect. Also, in newly infected individuals, there is a "window" after HIV infection, but before the development of antibodies, when this test is useless. On limited evidence, this window now seems to be 3 to 6 months long. Thus it is possible that HIV infected blood could be collected during this window. The 1-2% is the same risk you have using condoms...Beside that , you should know that in the world we have nations like India or many african nations who cannot make the screen because it is very expensive,and here we have still many cases of infection through blood transfusion.May be you dont care as you are living ,as I do, in a rich country and what happens in other parts of the world is not your business. Edit : "Gott mit uns" was often written on the helmets or on the belts by german soldiers, for your information. (Just search "gott mit uns " on google.....)<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If the germans had it, then it's right. It's their language... As for the blood thing, I stand corrected. Let me rephrase that to "Anyone who is intelligent and possessives the time and technology to screen blood for impurities before transfusion will. This does not guarantee pureness, but it is good enough that the tradeoff is worth it. It saves more lives than it ruins by a huge enough margin to make it both practical and a very important step in medical technology." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thranduill Posted May 8, 2005 Share Posted May 8, 2005 As for the blood thing, I stand corrected. Let me rephrase that to "Anyone who is intelligent and possessives the time and technology to screen blood for impurities before transfusion will. This does not guarantee pureness, but it is good enough that the tradeoff is worth it. It saves more lives than it ruins by a huge enough margin to make it both practical and a very important step in medical technology."<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you know how many blood transfusions are made in USA and Europe daily? If 0,1 % is at risk, it is still a quite good amount.. Anyway I dont want to discuss a practice that can save many lives (in our country we say "Dont shoot on the Red Cross").The main point is that the tests and the (poor) remedies we have for AIDSare all very expensive and are useless in the poorest countries,And they are so expensive because they have been made having a huge profit asfirst point of vue. What is paid it is not the real cost. the multinational companies who patented it refuse to reduce their enormous profit , and when Indians start to make it at a low price they bring them to WTO.What I refuse is the fact that in modern world your life is worthy only if you can pay for it, if not you can die and nobody cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KzinistZerg Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Meh- Your life is worth something if you do something with it. But that's not the topic of debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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