OOO Missing Meshes

[niko381]

Hey, I was having a bit of a problem with missing meshes when I use Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul, so I thought maybe someone here could help me out. I'm using the beta 1.34 version of it (since that's what FCOM: Convergence requires). Certain people (Like the woman guard at the beginning) throughout the game I only see as a floating bald head, and their armor is just missing. I used FormID Finder and it did point me to OOO, and when that mod is disabled, I didn't have this problem. Anyone else have a similar problem, or know what I can do to remedy the situation?

[dezdimona]

what other mods do you have installed and your load order too please

[niko381]

The mods I use are basically all the ones required for FCOM plus a few smaller ones, and the load order was set with BOSS. Here's a picture of what I've got going:

 

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3307/modloadorder.png

[dezdimona]

General Load-Order Guidelines

Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally.

 

~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later.

 

~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN)

 

~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through.

 

Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later).

 

So basically, it stacks up like this...

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mod/Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

 

 

 

Expanded Load-Order Guidelines

by dev_akm

 

I would extend this to include:

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods>

<Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

<Quests>

<Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists>

 

And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example).

 

That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together.

 

Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):

....

Oblivion

unoffical patch

Deeper realism mods that add sights and sounds

added content like weapons/items

gameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'

The OOO type

the 'new begining' type mod..

................................................................................

.................

[niko381]

Oh, thanks a lot for that! I'll re-order everything and post back with results.

[PacificMorrowind]

LO will NOT change the fact that he meshes are missing; did you download the complete package as well as the update? if not download it, otherwise try reextracting that. If on Vista/win7 make sure that UAC is disabled or oblivion is installed to a non-system location (ie. a good location is C:/games/Oblivion, but program files will be BAD).

Pacific Morrowind

[dezdimona]

LO will NOT change the fact that he meshes are missing; did you download the complete package as well as the update? if not download it, otherwise try reextracting that. If on Vista/win7 make sure that UAC is disabled or oblivion is installed to a non-system location (ie. a good location is C:/games/Oblivion, but program files will be BAD).

Pacific Morrowind

yes it will in some cases,you obviously did not read my reply!

[niko381]

Alright, well I thought maybe the Unofficial Oblivion Patch would fix the missing meshes, but it didn't, and neither did re-extracting that update (and yes, I do have the complete package). Any other ideas? :wacko:

[XJDHDR]

Did you download the patch and "OOO 1.33 complete" and install the patch after OOO 1.33? Or, if you use OBMM, did you turn the patch and OOO 1.33 into two seperate OMODs and install in said order?

 

Otherwise, the only other solution I can think of is Archive Invalidation. OBMM is probably the best tool for this and set it to use BSA Alteration or BSA Redirection (I use the latter).

[PacificMorrowind]

LO will NOT change the fact that he meshes are missing; did you download the complete package as well as the update? if not download it, otherwise try reextracting that. If on Vista/win7 make sure that UAC is disabled or oblivion is installed to a non-system location (ie. a good location is C:/games/Oblivion, but program files will be BAD).

Pacific Morrowind

yes it will in some cases,you obviously did not read my reply!

no LO will not change the fact that there are missing meshes; it may disquise the fact by a different mod taking priority but it will not change the fact that they aren't there for that one mod and usually if you are missing some meshes from a mod you are missing lots and hence it is better to fix witht he proper resources than just by hiding it with a differnt mod (and in this case since it sounds at least to me like the OP is missing some OOO resources with OOO in the optimal position nothing/very few things will be overiding it's meshes adn texture links.)

Pacific Morrowind