Another 'Help Me Build a Computer' thread

[Tsukika]

Hello, Nexus~

 

I know, just from a quick glance, that this section of the forums is almost nothing but these sorts of threads, so I apologize in advance if I am repeating questions already asked. I am quite comfortable with computer software, but when it comes to computer hardware, I know strictly the basics, and definitely NOT enough to pick out parts. Looking at lists of parts drives me insane, and I never know what parts are compatable with one another, so I desparately need lots of help with this one. I don't even know where to begin shopping, since I don't feel comfortable putting the machine together myself but keep getting told that custom-building would be a better option.

 

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My budget: $3,000 --- We can have fun with this, I know. (:

 

This does include the computer monitor, which I would like to be a reasonable size. ( This part I feel comfortable picking out, myself. xD )

 

We don't have to use the whole budget! I don't want to spend money just to spend it, but I'm ready to spend where it's worth spending.

 

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My Goal: I want this computer to be able to play current games, of course, on the highest settings. A good example would be a heavily-modded Skyrim, not necessarily with lots of texture mods, other than the official high textures, but lightning mods, script-based mods, and those sorts of things all are very attractive to me and just not doable with my current PC. I also want to make sure I'm ready for things to come, so I'm not having to upgrade too much for future titles like Fallout 4 and such.

 

I'm not sure if it makes a difference or not, but I do plenty of online gaming as well as single-player gaming.

 

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My Limitations (other than budget): As I said, I do not feel too comfortable putting this together myself, so simply ordering the individual parts is less than ideal for me.

 

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I do need some help with, literally, every aspect of getting this together. My current computer is a basic desktop with a graphics-card upgrade, and before this I was a console gamer, so I really have no clue..

 

I do apologize for my lack of knowledge here, but I really hope someone can help me out.

 

I cannot think of anything else to type up here, but I am ready to provide more information if needed, so please ask! And thank you, in advance.

 

~Tsu

[Thor.]

OOHH OHHH i can help, great budget :D

 

thinking, thinking... I'll get right to it.

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

Asus Monitor for gsync, Same monitor i have, g-sync ready.

 

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync

 

 

Motherboard, tried and true. Will last you a very long time

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877

 

I suggest get the 5.0ghz model

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113351

Edited January 12, 2014 by Thor.

[Tsukika]

OOHHOHHH i can help, great budget :D

 

I figured someone who likes doing this might like seeing that number. I definitely appreciate the help!

[Thor.]

Don't forget the 1tb ssd to go along with it.

 

here is a more reasonable ssd, 750gb, but the price is right.

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147250

One of the fastest ssd's on the market.

I forgot one thing, water cooling for that fx chip

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032

 

Any case you have in mind, i personally have the Cooler master Haf xb case.

 

more room then your average case.

 

One thing the corsair fans are known for is the noise they produce, i suggest switching them out with Noctua low noise fans, if its still in your budget.

 

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608039

 

round 6 to 8db

Edited January 12, 2014 by Thor.

[Tsukika]

Sorry for not getting back to this topic over the weekend.

 

I do appreciate the help, but as I said in my first post, I don't feel comfortable putting this together myself. Is there some way of picking out parts and having it all pieced together somewhere?

 

I also don't know what to do with some of the information provided. I'm 100% inexperienced with computer hardware, so anything unorganized is going to confuse me more than it will help. The parts linked to so far seem great, but then there are other part mentioned, and I can't tell which part some of what you're saying is referencing.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Tsukika

[Thor.]

You can try your local pc shop to help you with that. Independent pc shops usually do builds for you.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Thor.

[FMod]

I would have to go ahead and say "No" the the suggestion above.

 

FX-9590 is essentially an overclocked FX-8350. It's expensive, hot and it's not fast enough to forgive it.

Easy to spend other people's money, but I wouldn't spend it that way.

 

 

As for what to do spend it on, I'll link a post I made recently to a question regarding a 3k-4k AUD build:

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1311907-good-cpu-and-motherboard-and-stuff-about-cooling/?p=11049876

It's Australian prices, USD prices will be lower. Follow the 1st (AUD 2700) build, should be US$2,000 or so.

Especially for Skyrim, you want a 4770 or 4770K CPU.

 

There will be some changes depending on where you'll buy.

Local stores are likely to have poor selection, but newegg etc don't build. Ones who build often only offer prebuilts with options that are badly configured.

Do you know anyone who would do it for you (and wouldn't charge serious money, of course)?

 

 

I'm not sure if it makes a difference or not, but I do plenty of online gaming as well as single-player gaming.

It does if you mean MMO. They take a ton of space and they're very sensitive to it being SSD space, since it's not just you waiting for your loadscreens, but the whole raid.

Crucial M500 480GB as suggested is a good drive to pick then.

[Tsukika]

 

Stuff

 

 

This is much more straightforward, thank you.

I do notice that there are two hard-drives in that build; is there an advantage to doing so, aside from more space?

Also, what does SSD mean? That keeps getting tossed around.

 

To answer the question about knowing anyone at all who can build it for me, I do not, either as a favor or through hiring someone.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Tsukika

[ermacos]

i am dyslexic so i couldn't read all of it, so you need a ready solution? or custom built. Already solution is about 50%+ more expensive and some parts from the ready solutions are to stock out the specific product.. lol

 

I would suggest you to find a person that you have close to your family and who knows how to do it. So you can get custom parts.

 

I dont know if you prefer NVIDIA or AMD, but AMD at this point have better offers in their GPUs. But they are HOT. even the custom solutions are getting HOT.

 

But

 

Nvidia is going to release their next gpus near October and November!!! The witcher 3 will be a promotion for the new Nvidia GPUs at that time. Because it uses new Physx.

 

 

I personally got a gtx780 and I am very happy, i may sli it. I run everything current at highest settings and at very high fps.

 

for someone who looks NOW to get a new gpu, I would suggest him to wait till Octomber... But you need a whole built... so at this point :

 

Nvidia runs cooler, less power consumption and 5-10% less fps than AMD (GTX 780 ti excluded because the TI version is superb), Nvidia has better SLI, gsync, physx and many other new fx extensions, plus CUDA.

 

AMD have more computing gpu power, 5-10% better performance in many games, and the low end AMD gpus are used for BIT COINS. But the high end AMD gpus are HOT and the so called MANTLE is postponed, nobody knows if it will perform, when and if it comes.. (they are also cheaper). But they consume more electricity.

 

I give you an example... my ASUS gtx780 consumes 225watt at stress, runs at 64c, while the AMD r9 290 - 290x, consume about 50watt more and runs much more hot. Its many things that you have to consider, before you buy something. The idea of me is to sli my gtx780 thats why I choose something that performs really good and consumes less power.

 

Here is some real performance in SWTOR game (the channel and the video is mine), make the video 1080p and fullscreen, so you can look the frames per second. As for skyrim, without mods, my gtx 780 all maxxed out and with old cpu... It runs 140fps!

 

Edited January 13, 2014 by ermacos

[FMod]

I do notice that there are two hard-drives in that build; is there an advantage to doing so, aside from more space?

Also, what does SSD mean? That keeps getting tossed around.

 

Two permanent storage technologies are currently popular in home PCs: hard disk drives aka HDD and flash drives aka SSD (techically, both are solid state, but who cares).

 

HDD offer more capacity and are cheaper, SSD are faster.

The two drives there are SSD for OS and most demanding games, HDD for movies, other games, backups, etc.

 

 

To answer the question about knowing anyone at all who can build it for me, I do not, either as a favor or through hiring someone.

Then you'll have no choice other than getting a prebuilt system.

Which in your price range usually won't suck, but will have so-so parts and include a lot of profit margin.

 

That or you can learn to build one yourself. Taking apart and putting back together a current one is one way, another is to read a lot and do it after reading manuals. It's not rocket science, the modern ATX PC form-factor has been specifically designed to be easily put together by the end user - down to housewives. That's why everything is so big, every connector notched, everything sticks or clips in place.

 

You don't really need to practice, I've built my first PC when I was something like 11 or 12, a cheap AT clone back then, and it never even occurred to me that it would someday be treated as something challenging. Or to my parents that a kid might need help doing that (like "Why? Isn't it like one of these Meccano toys, but a lot simpler?"), it wasn't even a memorable experience.

 

They've gotten a bit less user-friendly since then, though.

1) Intel skimps on CPU by using a LGA socket which is cheap for them and expensive for motherboard makers, but can be easily damaged by a careless user.

2) Heatsinks may take some fiddling to install, though there's no risk to it, just some screws.

2) Video cards use 8-pin power connectors that look just like motherboard EPS connectors, so you need to look what it says on the connector before plugging it in.

 

But that's all I can think of. This is it. Everything else is quite literally a game of pegs and holes, you find a hole that matches each peg and plug it in. It's easy by design.

 

 

 

Here is some real performance in SWTOR game (the channel and the video is mine), make the video 1080p and fullscreen, so you can look the frames per second.

Keybinds man! You're starting to do ops, it's long time to bind at least the entire area from Q to B. And keybind that class buff, you or your groupmates should never be without it.

 

Edited January 13, 2014 by FMod