How do the modding community threat with new item ID's?

[xUs3L3ssx]

Hi there,

 

i wondering that new items even are "replaced".
Is there something importend to new item ID's?

 

Thanks

[zanity]

May I respectfully suggest you use one of the many excellent language translation functions of services like Yandex. By doing so, you will be able to talk at length in your native language, confident that the translated version posted here reads as very good English.

 

A short incoherent post with enough spelling and grammar mistakes implies to most people that further conversation would be pointless.

 

As to the internal data structures of starfield, until the official support tools and documentation release, all mods are based on hopefully speculation- an assumption that what worked with Fallout 4 will work with Starfield. This is a false assumption. Even apparent similarities may have hidden changes. When 'strange' things are found, modders- not being the people who created and coded Starfield- are literally clueless.

 

Some people are trying to reverse engineer the game- a largely pointless endeavour given the promise by Beth to release specs by early 2024. In other words if you need to ask a question like this you need to wait. Those with the skills to do high quality reverse engineering never ask such questions because they understand the answers come from systematic experimentation with an undocumented code blob.

[xUs3L3ssx]

Thanks for the answer.

(I think) grammar is pointless.
(Sorry), that was not the question!

 

(Oh, Ok, but,) The translation is ok:

"Hallo, Ich frage mich, ob neue Artikel überhaupt „ersetzt“ werden. Gibt es etwas Wichtiges bei neuen Artikel-IDs? Danke"

 

Edit:

Ah, see a mistake:

Question:

 

Hi there,

i wondering that new items are only "replaced".
Is there something importend to new item ID's?

Thanks

 

--- ( All under the line has been started by the grammar teacher :wink: )

 

PSS: I don't judge people and especially I don't judge people with other people's behavior, that's crazy.

 

The Words in Brackets () - Are unneded, so talks the world, without is the way i talk - but people getting problems with it :wink:
But let's be honest, I can't help it if others don't have self-confidence.
I can see, you're reaction on this - That's how it was intended.
If i want to be teached - i will get in touch - OK?

 

Don't complain, you started it

[xUs3L3ssx]

Let's try this:

 

Can i add new Item Ids without breaking modders or beth software?

Is there a registration anywhere, i don't think so, but next question, why?

 

Why should i decompile the software?
I think i didn't need that, i will see, but more intersting is not to break other peoples stuff.

 

Thanks

 

--- ( All under the line has been started by the grammar teacher ;) )

 

And don't think that you can judge me in any way, do we understand each other?
Espacialy not with the behaviour of other users - OK?

[xUs3L3ssx]

--- ( All under the line has been started by the grammar teacher :wink: )

 

Let's talk about behaviour of people. Aside the question!

 

The Bethesda way:

Make a decision: Grammar Teacher or Specialist :wink:

 

Ah treat not thread - whatever - every understood. (checked grammar :wink:)
If i just copy and paste i will never learn anything.

 

But stop judging people - OK?

 

Mistakes are for learning!

 

Or is it my name? Given by Apex Players :wink:

 

Next Question:
Why not simply write "threat has another meaning as treat"?
No one will be angry about this short, simple and true mention!

 

I love learning but i hate reprimand!

 

I will learn the language, not copy and paste.
There is no gain in it.

 

An Advice - if you want that that mentioned people behave in a other way - it's in your hand :wink:
You can use pointless things and unneded words.
Or you can speak short, simple and true!

 

 

PS: Use of wrong words or diffrent meanings are not pointless, the are essential and very important.
Else Grammar is pointless.

[xUs3L3ssx]

--- ( All under the line has been started by the grammar teacher :wink: )

 

So many words could be dropped with one short, simple and true sentence.
But, maybe it could inspirate you.
If you want to change the people, begin at your self :wink:
This message would be lost!

 

Hey, it's not me - it's the world.
Now one is repsonsible for another person.

 

Just lead the conversation by changing the way you talk and act!

So you get less problems and more happy people.
Because the people you mentioned are not demons from the hell!
All things have a reason!

 

Don't take it personaly, i espacialy critizise this general behaviour.

(I've checked criticize :wink:)

 

Or is it something completely different? That some people may be imagining things a bit and it is not necessary to greet someone properly without reprimanding them directly. Or am I not worthy of asking questions - what are you actually imagining?

 

There is no way, the only conclusion is to love the mankind ...

[xUs3L3ssx]

Who of you can read this in it's whole complexity?

And what did it tell you about the people you revile?

 

The Line - About the behaviour.

The clean questions and answers above.
The angry but constructive way.

 

It's in your hand to change this!
Drop everything under the lines :wink:

 

I only hear bad things about you, so who could deign to answer my question?

I understand quick and learn rapidly.

Let me see if I lost or won an answer.

[xUs3L3ssx]

The Answer translated:

If you want to mod, you have to decompile the program because bethesda deliver no editing tools till 2024?
Wtf...

But i'm so hot on it, NOW :D

 

https://www.eurogamer.de/starfield-mit-offiziellen-modding-tools-ist-nicht-vor-2024-zu-rechnen

 

But, why do modders only replace items?
What will happen if i add a new ID?
If i set one, i can't change anymore without breaking savegames.

[xUs3L3ssx]

How do he manage new ID's?
What if when the new addons use the same ID?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/2790?tab=files

 

and

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/1379

 

Do they need to decompile?

[xUs3L3ssx]

My Idea:

 

A Workbench that extracting found weapon special abilities.

Save it to an Object, and make it reusable.
I know there is a mod for changing, but it's not "lore" (Thats it called, or) friendly. I want to make a game out of it.
You have to find, can use once and so on.
Make it playable.

Maybe drop rar "containers" in the world, to copy that abilities from the weapons/armor.
Need to find a construction plan who will activate the possibility to research the workbench.

 

Best placed beside the allness :D - just kidding ;)

 

Does not work so easy without the tools i think?