Game Freeze from Witch Enemy Dialog. Snapleg Cave. [Solved, Form 43 Issue - Northborn Scars]

[craynaar]

This is my first forum post please be patient if I do anything incorrectly.

 

Left side of Mod Organizer: https://pastebin.com/JmN6T19x

Right side of Mod Organizer: https://pastebin.com/e6uh2T2D

 

me recreating the issue: https://files.catbox.moe/rng02w.mp4

 

I can't post papyrus log because it's not a CTD.

This is in Snapleg Cave. Haven't been that far into the game. no autosaving, no quick saving. only manual saving. no new mods were loaded/unloaded until this point. I have used sseedit and nif optimizer. I'm imaging this is a sequence break issue? I have no business being in this cave really, just wanted to go dungeon crawling for the heck of it.

 

Whenever the enemy (in this case, the witch) makes an audio dialog, the game freezes. I can start combat with them, but the moment she says anything the game freezes. I tried to sneak away from the cave to exit because I wasnt sure if it was the hagraven, or an ai combat issue, but the moment she let's out a "sigh", instant freeze. so i know the issue is 100% with her.

 

funny thing is, i remember coming across this same exact issue years ago. Different version of skyrim, different mod setup.

should i go into the creation kit and just delete her? this is the end of the dungeon and no other witch gave me any trouble at all. I just hope I don't come across this again at a later time.

 

I'm not sure what in the load order or what scripts could be conflicting. but i think this is a todd howard special imo. I hope im wrong.

 

edit: I started a new game with no mods and used console commands to teleport to snapleg cave and im able to run through the entire cave with no freeze.

Edited October 24, 2023 by craynaar

[craynaar]

Found the culprit. It was Northborn Scars. Form 43.

I tried converting it to form 44 through SSE Creationkit to no avail. Best to avoid that mod entirely.