noneother Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I currently run around 80 or so mods at once in Oblivion, including everything from FCOM and it's component mods, to all of the Unique Landscapes mods, Midas Magic, Lost Spires, Body replacers, clothing shops, and CM companions, just to name a few. Everything was installed correctly, and from what I can tell, my load order is pretty close to perfect. However, my game has become so buggy that I experience VERY frequent and unpredictable CTD's that rarely happen because of the same single thing twice. Is anybody else out there who's oblivion is as modded as mine is, but without the constant crashes and bugs? I just wanna know if it's possible before I uninstall and try again (a process which would EASILY eat up 6-7 hours of my day). Thanx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigrets Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 I currently run around 80 or so mods at once in Oblivion, including everything from FCOM and it's component mods, to all of the Unique Landscapes mods, Midas Magic, Lost Spires, Body replacers, clothing shops, and CM companions, just to name a few. Everything was installed correctly, and from what I can tell, my load order is pretty close to perfect. However, my game has become so buggy that I experience VERY frequent and unpredictable CTD's that rarely happen because of the same single thing twice. Is anybody else out there who's oblivion is as modded as mine is, but without the constant crashes and bugs? I just wanna know if it's possible before I uninstall and try again (a process which would EASILY eat up 6-7 hours of my day). Thanx! Do you have a Bashed patch using Wrye Bash? That would be the most likely cause. A Bashed Patch is absolutely essential if you use FCOM. The instructions for that are in the FCOM readme files. Otherwise, try using BOSS (better oblivion Sorting Software to ensure your load order is correct. It will sort the mods for you and tell you if there are problems. Make sure to read the docs completely regarding unknown mods and how to load them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneother Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 well, there's one thing i forgot to mention... lol my bad, yes, I'm using Wyre Bash, OBMM, and even BOSS to fix my load order, although BOSS keeps giving me the same errors, errors I've already fixed as it requested. Not only that, but I used the conflict detector in OBMM, and there were more conflicts than not. I'm not sure how this happened, but I'm thinking I should start anew, and not mess with FCOM just yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 this load order helps alot,whether its OBMM or Boss you use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneother Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 oh, and nobody answered my question yet. I know most of the things I can try to do to fix this stuff, but nothing seems to be workin too hot. I just wanna know if it's been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneother Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 here's one more that's been gettin me... is it a good idea to install the Unofficial Oblivion Patch BEFORE I try to set up FCOM? I mean, they say to start with a clean install so as to prevent conflicts, but the UOP isn't a mod... any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJDHDR Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 actually, UOP IS a mod which is designed to fix bugs. I would recommend you install UOP before everything else. Have you got the latest Oblivion patch? Also, how powerful is your PC? If you install too many mods, your PC might reach the point where it can't take any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneother Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I can assure you it's not my PC. My rig could play any game that comes out for the next 10 years.Also, I went ahead and did the unofficial patch first, but the entire re-modding process is taking a bit longer than I expected....And yep, I am (and was with my last install), updated to the most recent patch. Trust, I read the entire first-time-install page on how to properly set up FCOM. I'm thinking I might have just screwed something up last time... IDK...Either way, here in about 2 days I should be back up to my former modded glory. And if it STILL continues to CTD, I'll prolly just flip out and banish Oblivion from my life forever. Cause that's what us impatient yet rational people do, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Crashes are a part of the Oblivion experience. It's the game's way of telling you that you need to take a break. :whistling: There will always be some crashes, all we can do is minimize them. Save often, it will keep the frustration level down. :wallbash: Anything running in the background can cause a crash. Especially a program that likes to call home, such as an antivirus program that updates without warning, or an instant messaging program trying to connect. :down: Start by disabling everything that accesses the internet when you play. that includes the Vonage, Skype, IM, xfire and anything that calls in or out. You might even disable internet access altogether. Many programs use an auto update feature - such as HP printers (how often does your printer driver need updating?)MS auto update can cause crashes. Some of these will even try to connect when the internet is disabled, and keep trying every ten minutes or so. If you can, disable the autoupdate function, at least while playing. :( Then look for programs that run in the background, they are stealing time from the game and if they don't give control back quick enough - crash. MS indexing service, antivirus progs that scan everything in the background, Auto defrag programs, Scheduling programs all steal cycles from the game. Any of these can cause crashes. >:( After you have cut down the crashes caused by external stuff, start looking at your mods. Some mods just don't play well with others. And for some the load order is very important. BOSS works for most load order problems, but it can't set them all. There are over 15,000 mods on Tesnexus alone. Another often overlooked source of crashes is removing a mod. If you remove a mod that affects game play, it can cause a crash when something from the missing mod is referenced in game. The most common is the unable to enter Bruma crash. This is caused when you complete a part of the main quest with one character, make a new character, load an old save and try to enter Bruma with the new character. There is something (spoiler) in Bruma that references your old character - which is no longer in the game. Then there are the Nvidia black screen crashes. A quick way around them is to disable both AA and HDR in your video settings. Then after you are passed the point where the black screen occurs, re-enable whichever you use. There are many posts telling what has worked for some, and not worked for others, along with several mods that help. Try this, Windom Earle_s Oblivion Crash Prevention System :thumbsup: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282 It's being updated often so if it doesn't fix all of your crashes check back in a few days. It completely eliminated my crash on exit as well as some others (but not all) Note, it is not a mod and doesn't install like a mod, so be sure to read the instructions. :closedeyes: New info. A lot of unused .exe files left in the /data folder can cause problems. It seems that Oblivion likes to look through all of the unused files and even the extra folders in the /oblivion folder. new recommendation, make a new folder - OUTSIDE of /oblivion to keep this unused stuff. such as Bethesda/Oblivion_Mods. Note that Later versions of Wrye bash already do this with the ghosting feature. If you have a folder for unused mods in your /Oblivion folder, move it into the new/Oblivion_Mods folder. :rolleyes: Essentially, clean up your Oblivio/data folder and move everything not needed in /Oblivion and /Data to a new folder outside of /Oblivion. If you are keeping your original or copies of zipped downloads inside of the /Oblivion folder, move them out too. Also, if you can, empty the windows prefetch folder it may be keeping info on older now unused mods, and Oblivion will look for them if it sees that they are supposed to be there. You probably won't be able to get rid of all of them, but you can minimize them. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noneother Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 yeah, i've already uninstalled my entire super-modded oblivion and am currently re-installing it, and doing everything right by checking everything through wyrebash and whatnot. Most of those methods I have tried before, but the amount fo random CTD's i experienced was just unreal. That's why i was asking if there was ANYBODY who made everything work in harmony somehow. Then I could inquire about their load order and try to fix mine up. I appreciate the help, tho. I'll let you guys know how it turns out, once I'm finished in like 2 or 3 days -_-..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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