trandolp Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) I am not sure if this is a Load Order issue, or a compatibility issue, but i am experiencing a CTD after anywhere from 1 minute of playing, to 30 minutes of playing. Any help would be really appreciated. Below is my load order. See other Post Edited January 20, 2014 by trandolp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 1) Replace your load order with a full BOSS log (copy/paste it here), enclose the BOSS log with a set of spoiler tags so it won't clutter the screen. 2) List all mods you use which do not come with plugins and would not show up in a BOSS log or load order, such as texture or body replacers. 3) Describe your CTDs in greater detail: when/where/what were you doing or what was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trandolp Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveContains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}ApachiiHair.esm ActiveRaceCompatibility.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveChesko_Frostfall.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp ActiveNS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.WetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveAsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveBlindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp ActiveBloodWitchArmor.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Darklilith.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HuntressArmor.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}LustmordVampireArmor.esp ActiveMasters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp Activenordicrangerarmor.esp ActiveShreddedTrissMash.esp ActiveSVS LadyTemplar.esp ActiveTrissArmorRetextured.esp ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012) a compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp ActiveDr_Bandolier.esp ActiveSkyRe_Main.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:Note: [Actor]Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000Note: [Combat]Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp Activetos_granitehall.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 10 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.LocalizedGuildJobs.esp Activequest_nomercy.esp Activequest_pitfighter.esp Activequest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp Activequest_sorcery.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Activequest_seaofghosts.esp Activequest_thebiggertheyare.esp ActiveHeadbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)HelmetToggle2.02b.esp ActiveKillable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.tos_amber_guard.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 36 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.tos_laintardale_hf.esp Activetos_oakwood_hf.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp ActiveRealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveRND_HearthFires-Patch.esp ActiveRND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveRND_USKP-Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Better Vampires.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Spell Levitate.esp ActiveFNISspells.esp ActiveBetterMagic_FULL.esp ActiveBrows.esp ActiveThe Ningheim.esp ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveNote: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.ReProccer.esp ActiveThe following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.RND_AnimalLoot.esp ActivePCEA DG n DB DLC for SkyRe_Races.esp ActiveHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Active should be everything. I have a couple custom animations installed, but nothing else that wouldnt show up. And the CTD are very random. I relized I was missing Spike so I just installed that and then I will recreate the merge patch and try again. EDIT : Now that I added SPIKE.esm I CTD as soon as I load my game. Edited January 20, 2014 by trandolp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 1) Download TES5Edit from the link in the BOSS log, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits', except those explicitly indicated in the BOSS log that the 'dirty edits' are intentional and cleaning is not needed. 2) You didn't answer any of my questions. "...very random" is very vague. There are literally countless causes of CTDs. Describe all of the ones you have experienced, to the best of your recollections, with the details requested. You also did not provide a -list- of mods you are using which do not come with plugins, like the animation mods you mentioned. 3) What do you normally do with the plugins not recognized by BOSS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGuardian1986 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I think it's a problem with a mod i just deleted but i'm not entirely sure since the mod was "WolfQueen's Hunger", every time i defeated Potema in her sanctum and she flew to her remains the game would stop for like a second then 2 seconds later it does a CTD. if anyone has any thoughts to this, please let me know. for the time being i won't finish the quest, no sense in attempting it when it might possibly crash again. thank you in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trandolp Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 1) Download TES5Edit from the link in the BOSS log, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits', except those explicitly indicated in the BOSS log that the 'dirty edits' are intentional and cleaning is not needed. 2) You didn't answer any of my questions. "...very random" is very vague. There are literally countless causes of CTDs. Describe all of the ones you have experienced, to the best of your recollections, with the details requested. You also did not provide a -list- of mods you are using which do not come with plugins, like the animation mods you mentioned. 3) What do you normally do with the plugins not recognized by BOSS? for question 2, It is hard to answer. I will literally just be walking through the woods, and the game will CTD. I am usually not doing anything in particular. Regardless the game seems to be a bit more stable so I'll just hope for the best. Thanks for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) 1) Download TES5Edit from the link in the BOSS log, follow the instructions on the page, and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'dirty edits', except those explicitly indicated in the BOSS log that the 'dirty edits' are intentional and cleaning is not needed. 2) You didn't answer any of my questions. "...very random" is very vague. There are literally countless causes of CTDs. Describe all of the ones you have experienced, to the best of your recollections, with the details requested. You also did not provide a -list- of mods you are using which do not come with plugins, like the animation mods you mentioned. 3) What do you normally do with the plugins not recognized by BOSS? for question 2, It is hard to answer. I will literally just be walking through the woods, and the game will CTD. I am usually not doing anything in particular. Regardless the game seems to be a bit more stable so I'll just hope for the best. Thanks for all the help. I don't mind helping, but you need to help me help you. Since there are countless possible causes of random CTDs, tracking them requires as much information as possible to help narrow down the 'culprit.' Start keeping notes on the location of the CTDs as well as what was going on, so we can see if there's a 'pattern.' For example, in the example you mentioned of 'just walking....', was it in the worldspace (outdoors)? In a city (which)? In interior cells? Did you have followers? Was your weapon drawn? Were there other NPCs around? Were there a lot trees? Anything that might help reveal a 'pattern.' So it might be something like 'CTD #2: I was walking from Riverwood to Whiterun, and just crashed as I was approaching the city. This was during the day and I had no followers with me....' 'CTD #3: I was walking from Whiterun to Falkreath, and just crashed as soon as I saw some bandits.' And you still didn't answer all of my questions (what do you normally do with the plugins not recognized by BOSS, if anything?)..... :/ Edited January 20, 2014 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusey Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Don't remove scripted mods partway through a game. If you have, your save is probably corrupted and there's little to be done about the crashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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