Is anything known about the decision of the maker of "Appearance Edit Enhanced" to hide the mod?

[heaveygunner99]

16 hours ago, Happybara said:

We're currently talking to the mod authors and hoping to find a solution.

Thank you!

 

[heaveygunner99]

11 hours ago, odanu said:

The mod authors are not punishing mod users, they're engaging in collective bargaining, and the only thing they have to bargain with is the fact that many of us *live* to mod our games.  So gamers get mad that they can't play the game the way they want, they complain to Larian, and *perhaps* Larian will be responsive to the modding community. Look at how many of us are out here posting on the  forums.  That's what the mod authors who "went on strike" want. For us to get behind them so that they can provide better modding and modding that affects more parts of the game. I, for one, would love to see expansions like the dozens that Skyrim players get, for example. 

Flaw with that plan is that most players know that when it comes to modding, you never go to the game devs or anything because its not their responsibility to fix anything if you've "tampered" with their product (the game). Larian makes note of this in every single patch note they release. If the mod authors really expected us to "get behind them" then they are dead wrong. I will hope they didn't plan what you're predicting. 

[heaveygunner99]

4 hours ago, Fdzzaigl said:

We should definitely support the mod makers and thank them for their hard work. It's up to the users not to complain all day and take responsibility when updating or even if you save breaks.

That said, I followed the whole drama for a bit and was appalled by the behaviour and fixation some people seemed to have. I get that getting disappointed when you're really invested in something is not cool and can turn a positive emotion really sour.

But you should limit yourself and  define some boundaries. You're not a developer, modding should be fun for everyone involved. Once that ceases to be the case, just quit.

I might have misread your post so correct me if i'm wrong please. But if you're really defending the mod makers/authors for hiding the mods and saying the community is just complaining over nothing then can you explain better? It's not like we are complaining for no reason.

[thecryingcryptid]

yeah there's for sure some rude as heck people who put way too much stress on modders to get their updates out cus they don't know not to update their game right away. also just need to accept that by modding your game you're gonna mess it up at least once.

[heaveygunner99]

Just now, thecryingcryptid said:

yeah there's for sure some rude as heck people who put way too much stress on modders to get their updates out cus they don't know not to update their game right away. also just need to accept that by modding your game you're gonna mess it up at least once.

oh yea there is definitely people out there who give the modders too much crap and I hate those types of people. That said, I do think the mod authors made a bad move just hiding the mods outright. Its like destroying the whole nest for there being a couple of bad eggs. 

[Loachies]

16 hours ago, thecryingcryptid said:

it's like if fanfic writers demanded authors gave them their drafts.

Absolutely. This is all incredibly childish and disappointing to me. Modders should never feel entitled to the insides of a dev company and insult the devs for being told no. 

Mods are an amazing part of games that enhance it for some but they do not make a game. Especially one that only just came out and is not popular still due to mods. 

[LoneSilverWolf]

5 hours ago, Loachies said:

Absolutely. This is all incredibly childish and disappointing to me. Modders should never feel entitled to the insides of a dev company and insult the devs for being told no. 

Mods are an amazing part of games that enhance it for some but they do not make a game. Especially one that only just came out and is not popular still due to mods. 

I 100% agree. If the entire mod scene just got nuked today, BG3 would stand on its own feet. These mod authors are forgetting that the game is in active development. Larian also mentioned in early access they wanted to support mods, so they are being impatient children about this. If we who played early access can wait over a year for the game to release, then they can wait until next patch to start getting some mod support. 

I work at a call center, and unfortunately this entitled attitude isn't limited to just mod authors, but it is very telling why they have this entitlement when I deal with so many people on a daily basis with this exact same attitude. 

[TunkaDonka]

On 2/26/2024 at 11:03 AM, TunkaDonka said:

IMO the modders that dropped their mods are being selfish. Skyrim has been around for 13 years now, and Bethesda made modders life a living hell multiple times. Two version of games, game stop updating, so a modder had to create an update mod to update the game, Bethesda launching their own paid mods.
And yet, Skyrim keeps going. For the modders, i imagine it is very frustating seeing a lot of randoms calling both you and your work names, being rude etc for not updating YOUR mod on YOUR time. A community is made of team work, so if you all don't fell like updating the mod again, that's fine, just release the files again so us, non-modders that didn't tried to rush any of you, can play with your incredible work. 
Again, imo it's nor fair to punish an entire community for the mistake of a few brain-dead nerds, or cuz Larian's response. The mod community always was something apart from the company that makes the game.
Hope you all make it back.

 

[Fdzzaigl]

On 2/27/2024 at 4:09 AM, heaveygunner99 said:

I might have misread your post so correct me if i'm wrong please. But if you're really defending the mod makers/authors for hiding the mods and saying the community is just complaining over nothing then can you explain better? It's not like we are complaining for no reason.

I'm not really supporting them hiding their mods. It's an action that isn't going to be effective anyhow. That said, it's their file and they can do with it what they want.
I also very much don't support users going on the comment section and pressuring the authors to update.

Much of this discussion started on the Discord when one author expressed frustration because they felt responsible to keep updating their material and helping others when patches rolled in. A community moderator responded in a fairly cold shoulder way: "You don't need to."

While I think the moderator could have worded everything much better, he does have a point. It's not their job to fix everyone's problem. In fact it's not a job at all, it's a hobby and it should be fun for you. That was the point of my previous post: be understanding about eachother, set clear boundaries.

[heaveygunner99]

4 hours ago, Fdzzaigl said:

I'm not really supporting them hiding their mods. It's an action that isn't going to be effective anyhow. That said, it's their file and they can do with it what they want.
I also very much don't support users going on the comment section and pressuring the authors to update.

Much of this discussion started on the Discord when one author expressed frustration because they felt responsible to keep updating their material and helping others when patches rolled in. A community moderator responded in a fairly cold shoulder way: "You don't need to."

While I think the moderator could have worded everything much better, he does have a point. It's not their job to fix everyone's problem. In fact it's not a job at all, it's a hobby and it should be fun for you. That was the point of my previous post: be understanding about eachother, set clear boundaries.

What discord is this? might just be me but I'm having a hard time finding any discord regarding BG3 modding specifically. Honestly that moderator isn't wrong and not even wrong for being cold. Dude was tripping because they put too much pressure on their shoulder trying to blame the community when it was them who got it in their own head they had some form of duty. Honestly, I think it's an obvious thing that going onto a mod authors mod and being an asshole about the mod being updated is stupid and those people can f themselves and technically, yes, they do have a right to hide their mods. The problem boils down to them hiding the mod then trying to push this ridiculous narrative of "caring for the community" while also hurting us. It's the two-faced actions that's causing so many people to get upset.