Help running Mods

[gwaga2123]

I had the Downloaded version of Fallout 3, my hard drive crashed, installed new one, but lost the game in the crash. NOW, I have the game on DISC, but where and how do I run all the MODS I used in the past?

 

Used a DATA folder with the downloaded game, but now there is no DATA folder accessible to me with the Disc Version. I am using Vista 64 bit OS and please please please HELP ME!!!!!!!!

 

Side note - I had a plasma machine gun mod that lays on the bar at Moriartys I could steal and use. That MOD I cant find anymore help with this too please!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mechine]

Freak...

 

 

 

Idk I'd freak too.

 

 

WHAT IS THIS MESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

 

 

Without a data folder you can't play the game

 

When you install the game you install the data folder

 

 

There's not much in it but yeah it's a data folder.

 

 

You're just going to have to bite the bullet an start over as far as mods

 

Which isn't a bad thing, those mods you were using were outdated and useless.

 

By having to download again you get new versions that are updated.

 

 

 

 

VISTA huh, You should have done like me an bought the very last copy of Windows XP they made.

 

Anyway, pretty much you wana install fallout 3 outside of program files

 

not on the desktop either, some guy did that which is a terible idea

 

for the matter you should clean off your desktop as much as you can

 

I don't even load a background for my desktop, it's black.

 

 

 

 

Second you wana run fallout as a admin, and also run as Win XP SP3

these are properties when you right click the fallout.exe

There's probably even other stuff that pertains to Vista

 

The main thing is to install it to C:/bethesda softworks, or whatever

the default path is C:/program files/bethesda softworks, or something

Which windows vista if not all windows will apply security risks to it

which bite you in the arse later on, if you have two hard drives

I'd put fallout out on the one that doesn't have the windows system files in it

moving it to D:/bethesda softpoop or whatever

 

If you have only one grapics card, then run patch 1.0.15 plus the "fake patch" mod

you'll have to find the fake patch mod an download it an follow the link in the discription

to find out how to do it on a post on another site.

 

If you have two grapics cards or even 10 LOLZ SLI crossfire whatevers

then you should only use patches past 1.0.35, but 35 is kind of crappy an crashes 10X times

Which means you should use 1.5 plus FO3edit's master update or 1.6 plus FO3edit master update

More simple than the fake patch way, all you have to do is download FO3edit then either patch 1.5 or 1.6

Run the patch, install all the mods, then find the FO3edit.exe right click create a short cut

right click the short cut an add space -masterupdate to the target line

Target "C:/FO3edit.exe or something" -masterupdate

Don't change what's in the quotes just add the space and -masterupdate

then run the shortcut, it will prompt then start loading

if there is a error then it stops the process

which you view the text find out what errored

then FO3edit says to ask the modder that wrote that mod to fix it

good luck with that, you can open the mod that caused the error

with GECk an set it to active, it should prompt to auto fix it

which you should select yes, then save, then run master update again

if it still causes a error delete that mod an move on

once master update finishes without error click the X to close it

which will auto save it, then just run master update again

if you add in new mods.

 

 

 

Now providing how good you are at installing then the end result will either be a nightmare

or a well working version of fallout 3, you should install everything manually even though

the auto install is really easy, the manual way you will see stuff that is a red flag

showing that you shouldn't use it, As I install I place Zip/rar files that I end up installing

in a folder named done, then the ones that throw up red flags in a folder named not done

done as in, installed done, not done as in, not done because it would mess up my install

 

If you have no idea what you are doing, which pretty much discribes everybody here

then you're in trouble. You can use the ultimate load order, it's a outdated but still it

has pretty good mods in it, plus it's a super clean install that will teach you how to do stuff

You can always ditch the ultimate load order then reinstall making your own with what you learned

 

 

You can check which version of fallout you have by finding the fallout.exe not the shortcut

then right click an select the version tab.

 

as late in the game as it is you might get a disc that isn't version 1.0

 

 

You can either download 200 mods then go thru it installing an maybe end up with 150

that you can use together, and then 50 or so in the not done folder that you can either edit

or delete. But when you get done installing the load order will be FUBAR, with fallout.esm

in the middle an everything mixed up. plan on a few hours fixing it

 

 

You wana watch out for stuff that mods the same stuff, like eyes/race/hair

Also loot lists or like weather, they all pretty much conflict

but that doesn't stop us from trying.

 

 

MMM goes at the bottom of the load order, compatibility patches go after the main esp they patch for

like

 

MMM.esp

MMM FOOK.esp <---patch

MMM.RI.esp <--- patch

MMM.options

 

 

You should probably install then create a restore point

then patch, then install mods, then master update

then actually get the thing to work

 

 

You should download FOMM, FOSE, FO3edit, and GECK

 

Pay attention to versions of things, some versions don't work or just outdated

 

 

Defrag your hard drives, update your drivers.

 

 

 

I'd start with that or start by looking into Vista tweeks for fallout 3

 

ultimate load order would get you going a little faster too, as all the steps for your plan are there

all you do is do it, instead of looking for stuff, But then you probably won't like most of the stuff

in the ultimate load order, which doesn't matter because you're just learning an can make a better one later.

They might even cover Vista issues or the http://www.tweakguides.com/Fallout3_8.html tweek guide will.

 

 

Sorry man I just don't know what to tell ya

 

I have a retail disc version, and yes it has a data folder.

 

Quit tip toeing around an installing like a noob, You're an admin not a nooby nub nub :D

 

 

Random crashes are because of mod incompatablity or system being taxed to much

 

crashing before you get to the load screen would be a red flag for a noob load order or worse

 

You get lagged when running around, stop and wait a second or you can crash from system being taxed.

 

Let us know when you get some stuff to work with.