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Mod idea - kill Valerica, free Durnehviir?


monkseal

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So there I was, playing Dawnguard in a way that really wasn't intended, and I had a thought. Durnehviir is supposed to serve the Ideal Masters while Valerica lives, right? Well, what if she dies? 

Could work like this: after the Dawnguard questline is wrapped up, you can go back to Soul Cairn, where you get an extra option to fight the now non-essential Valerica ("Harkon is dead... and you're next!" or something of that kind). If you do end up killing her, Durnehviir appears, expressing his surprise at this turn of events. He can then say that he's now capable of leaving the Cairn entirely without ceasing to exist, but that would cost him most of his power (what with him being tied to the place for so long). And, since the player has now both defeated and unadvertedly helped him, he will leave the final choice to you. If you choose "I still need a strong ally", nothing changes: Durnehviir leaves and stays a summon. If you pick "I want you to be free now", you will lose "Summon Durnehviir" (as he's now too weakened to assist you), and the dragon will relocate to Kjenstag Ruins and stay there perched on the wall (maybe with a couple non-hostile undead minions hanging around). Here, he can be talked to, teach some conjuration, maybe some fancy necromantic spells, or, possibly, have a mechanic similar to Paarthurnax's meditations, but with different words of power.

Since I'm not much of a  modder, I would be interested to hear your opinions on how possible that is! 

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Great idea for next "Quest Expansion" mod!

I support the idea!

I want to add another option to this, make them fight each other, if dragon won, he`ll become neutral and thanks player for his freeing, but player will loose the sommun power.

if Valerica won, she'll go frenzy and be mad at player for threatening her life... eventually sending 3 vampire assassins to eliminate player... after they`re dealt with, herself confronts you! Killing her, will give you ability to "Summon Vampire Eliminator" that chooses a non-animal target and in exchange of his / her life, deals a massive damage to the target, eliminating both target and vampire. 

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12 hours ago, SingoHandmade said:

Great idea for next "Quest Expansion" mod!

I support the idea!

I want to add another option to this, make them fight each other, if dragon won, he`ll become neutral and thanks player for his freeing, but player will loose the sommun power.

 

That does sound fun, although, considering how "efficient" dragons seem to be in my game, that fight could last a few hours 🤪

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11 hours ago, monkseal said:

That does sound fun, although, considering how "efficient" dragons seem to be in my game, that fight could last a few hours 🤪

Yay! an epic fight that would be!

Actually I forgot to add this:

If player frees him before Dragonborn or Vanilla Main Quest line last missions, confronting Miraak and Alduin, respectively, Durnehviir joins Player`s Side.

I use Diverse Dragons Collection 3 [DDC3] and Deadly Dragons [DD] for Dragons variations and Combat, Duel Combat Realism [DCR] for general combat enhancement and Overhaul, and Archery Gameplay Overhaul [AGO] for what it says.

for vampires, I use Better Vampires [BV] and Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim [SVOS].

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3 hours ago, SingoHandmade said:

Yay! an epic fight that would be!

Actually I forgot to add this:

If player frees him before Dragonborn or Vanilla Main Quest line last missions, confronting Miraak and Alduin, respectively, Durnehviir joins Player`s Side.

I use Diverse Dragons Collection 3 [DDC3] and Deadly Dragons [DD] for Dragons variations and Combat, Duel Combat Realism [DCR] for general combat enhancement and Overhaul, and Archery Gameplay Overhaul [AGO] for what it says.

for vampires, I use Better Vampires [BV] and Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim [SVOS].

Ooh, ideas ideas ideas!
I tried to keep the original post's idea as contained as possible, since, from my (limited) understanding, integrating stuff into other vanilla quests is an extra layer of trouble. And I've seen way too many cool ideas never happen because the scope ended up being too much... But still, if this ever happens, that could be in Update 1 😃

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maybe it`s time for 3rd Spin-off!!! The previous 2 were complete success!

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