jbotten Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Hi all, First time poster, so forgive any newbie mistakes please! Right, so I tried the FCOM thing, had a few issues (found a conflict with the T.I.E. mod, some missing meshes, icons etc) but seemed to get them all sorted. It wasn't until I tried sleeping to level up that I ran into real strife. No matter how much I sleep, my level does not go up! I have spend a couple of hours searching for a similar problem on the net, but no joy. While FCOM seems to be pretty awesome, Oblivion will pretty much suck if I can't level up. And I don't want to start a new game only to find that I can't level up there either! Anyone got any suggestions? I have the GOTY edition, all the DLC's installed, plus the unofficial patches. I used BOSS to optimize my mod load order. Here is my mod list/load order: Active Mod Files:00 Oblivion.esm 01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.71] 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b1] 06 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c] 07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] 08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0B Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 0C Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 0D Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 0E Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 0F Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp 10 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 11 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 13 Fran Armor Add-on.esp 14 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 15 VA_BetterGold.esp 16 DLCHorseArmor.esp 17 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 18 DLCOrrery.esp 19 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 1A DLCVileLair.esp 1B DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 1C DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1D DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 1E DLCSpellTomes.esp 1F DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 20 Bonemold_helmet.esp 21 DLCThievesDen.esp 22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 23 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 24 ExnemRuneskulls.esp 25 FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] 26 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.69] 27 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63] 28 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 29 FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9] 2A Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 2B Cheat Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 2C FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 2D Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp 2E FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] 2F Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 30 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] 31 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] 32 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] 33 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 34 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] 35 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b1] 36 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] 37 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b1] 38 Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b1] 39 Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.7b1] 3A Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b1] 3B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b1] 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b1] 3D Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b1] 3E Mart's Monster Mod - Durzog Addon.esp [Version 0.10] 3F TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c] 40 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c] 41 TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c] 42 TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c] 43 TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp [Version 1.39c] 44 FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9] 45 FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 46 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 47 FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9] 48 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9] 49 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] 4A MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69] 4B DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 4C DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 4D DLCFrostcrag.esp 4E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 4F Knights.esp 50 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 51 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b1] 52 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b1] 53 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9] 54 FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9] 55 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.0.1] 56 Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp [Version 2.1.0] 57 Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp [Version 2.1.0] 58 Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 2.1.0] 59 SD Skill Diary.esp 5A Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp [Version 3.7b1] 5B Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52] 5C MM24HourAlwaysOn.esp Any assistance would be much appreciated! ThanksJamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezdimona Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 General Load-Order GuidelinesHere are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally. ~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later. ~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN) ~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through. Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later). So basically, it stacks up like this... Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)><Major Overhaul Mod/Mods><Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence><DLC's (Pre-Completion)>Note: If using Mayu's Overhaul Mod. I recommend loading it after OOO or MMM Expanded Load-Order Guidelinesby dev_akm I would extend this to include: Oblivion.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods><Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)><Major Overhaul Mods><Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence><DLC's (Pre-Completion)><Quests><Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists> And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example). That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together. Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):....Oblivionunoffical patchDeeper realism mods that add sights and soundsadded content like weapons/itemsgameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'The OOO typethe 'new begining' type mod................................................................................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbotten Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Thanks for the suggestions, I will try them out ASAP and let you know how it goes. ThanksJames P.S. If you have no objections, could you either post or PM me your mod load order, so I have a direct comparison (being a very casual gamer, I want to avoid spending my 2 hours of gaming for a night messing around with mods!) Thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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