gamerforlife12 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 k after all this i have a doubt specifically about 'Hothtrooper44_Armor_Eckstraa.esp' if TES5EDIT and BOSS are able to rearrange the mods in proper load order then how is it so that 'Hothtrooper44_Armor_Eckstraa.esp' isnt rearranged along with the rest (the rest got properly rearranged too doesnt seem like they got rearranged after this doubt)..?? :confused: :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerforlife12 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 k so i just tried diing exactly as suggested here in certain areas - installed XP32's skeleton, disabled realistic lighting overhaul, changed the load order of Hothtrooper44_Armor_Eckstraa.esp to over the main mod. then i restarted and guess what...on starting a new game the scene where im sitting in the cart and being taken to Helgen...the whole scene in rotating and revolving unevenly as if the character is all tooo drunk and is trying to faint but the trip is only making its head bounce in every direction!! :sad: :ohmy: :confused: :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerforlife12 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 another weirdness - just on a hunch i disabled XP32's skeleton mod and the screen is not more going all bonkerz and revolving & rotating...so all that i have heard about XP32's skeleton doesnt seem true in this case...which is sad...no idea why though :confused: :sad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerforlife12 Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) k this is he latest run boss result: These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.Skyrim.esm Active Checksum: C665FD56Update.esm Active Checksum: E5B67BDABash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Checksum: 29D2C7DFBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm Active Checksum: BD72CCF3Contains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Checksum: FF134167Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm Active Checksum: AF82CE6AContains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active Checksum: F913F25EDragonborn.esm Active Checksum: A9F83BFFContains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active Checksum: DA46F3C8Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}ApachiiHair.esm Active Checksum: 783F7167RaceCompatibility.esm Active Checksum: 1E8C087FClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Checksum: 918881A7HighResTexturePack01.esp Active Checksum: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.esp Active Checksum: D596F02ABetter Dynamic Snow.esp Active Checksum: F3204EF1Immersive Sounds - Magic.esp Active Checksum: 870819F3StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active Checksum: 7985AB43AMatterOfTime.esp Active Checksum: 70774764Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active Checksum: 4B399546Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active Checksum: 1537EE33SkyUI.esp Active Checksum: 9330CAF7iHUD.esp Active Checksum: 6633B25EBlackSacramentArmor.esp Active Checksum: D43D432BBlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp Active Checksum: CFBD8DFAFlameAtronachArmor.esp Active Checksum: 4CB65954Requires: CBBEFullBootForKKSA.esp Active Checksum: 2A065A06Requires: CBBEHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active Checksum: D9079EEBError: SPIKE.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Immersive Weapons.esp Active Checksum: E41D31DBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Lore Weapon Expansion.esp Active Checksum: 803DD362Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dr_Bandolier.esp Active Checksum: E3FB152BInconsequential NPCs.esp Active Checksum: 92A1DBE9Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active Checksum: FC89B3A5ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AEIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting OverhaulClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp Active Checksum: E0070AEFSaturationBoost.esp Active Checksum: 102342E6CharacterMakingExtender.esp Active Checksum: DA75AC94dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active Checksum: 910FBBF3Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Active Checksum: 50203557WATER.esp Active Checksum: F3AFB9C5WATER Plants.esp Active Checksum: E45D9321WATER DG.esp Active Checksum: 17150A89WATER DB Waves.esp Active Checksum: 528188BD theres not much of a difference other than no more enhanced blood since i disabled that too... also 'Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp' the load order of which i had manually changed, as suggested by u all, to the top of the main mod on running TES5EDIT and Boss again changes back to the end of the list and unrecognized by Boss...!! also i had disabled realistic lighting overhaul and kept climates of tamriel but yet the exact same line shows up in this new list: 'ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Active Checksum: B61E85AEIncompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul' weirdly after all this still the freaking game crashes during Helgen...only this time instead of crashing during the point where u enter and get untied...instead it is crashing right after the dragon breaks the wall and then u are asked to jump off to the damaged house... i so feel like crying out loud now... :'( *sob Edited February 15, 2014 by gamerforlife12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerforlife12 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 The white background is likely due to a background setting that was carried over from your notepad along with the copied text. Probably nothing to worry about unless it does it a lot. The Helgen sequence is heavily scripted and I have seen several other crashes caused by the game scripts being incompatible with some mod script. But not in this particular place. As this is where you are first allowed a weapon, I would look at weapon mods that have scripts - those with a magic effect added would be a likely suspect. The entire Helgen sequence until you exit the cave is both an intro and a tutorial. Most of those scripts terminate on exiting the cave. Try disabling ALL mods until you get out on the road. As it is heavily scripted, most mods are not going to be doing anything anyway. And if they try that could be the cause of the crash. The cosmetic and texture only mods usually don't have scripts and should be OK. i think the only way left for me is to uninstall the game completely :'( i tried as u advised and unchecked all the mods that appeared in the skyrim launcher's data list (not to say that all the mods were truely disablesd since i saw a few in-game) and started the game and yet the game crashed without any msg or error at the very scene where the dragon breaks open the wall and then we have to jump down onto the damage house...!! "couldnt nmm and all those mods and boss and TES5EDIT have descriptions and tutorial videos and functions a layman that has absolutely 0% understanding of computer language and how what goes and with what!?" that was my thought...kinda stupid on my end i get that but darn this modding...i gotta say i had about what..a 100 or so mods with fallout 3 and vegas installed at the same time running on a hp laptop thats had weaker system configurations then the one i have right now and i used fomm and manual installation of mods back then and those games worked beautifully and it was damn easy...why cant it be the same with skyrim... :'( .. obviously im doing something wrong with the mods and all but how in the world do i catch the criminal (bad mod) here when im not even i security guard then being a policeman is miles away...if u know what i mean :wallbash: :blink: :verymad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamerforlife12 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 k ima list down allll the mods that i have activated in nmm and after that the extra ones that i only downloaded but never activate or deactivated : activated: -A Matter of Time -A Quality World Map -ApachiiSkyHair v_1_5_full -Arise - Chapter 1 - black sacrament armor v4-1 - high def -Auto Unequip Ammo - auto unequip ammo v5_0 -Bandolier - bags and pouches v1dot2 -Better Dynamic Snow -Book Covers Skyrim -Enhanced Animation - enhanced animation 0-4 -ECE -Immersive Armors - immersive armors v7 -Immersive HUD -Immersive Saturation Boost -Immersive Sounds -Immersive Weapons -inconsequential NPCs - inconquential npcs 1 dot 7b -Killer Keos Skimpy Armor Replacer - UNPb version - killier keo skimpy armor replacer - unpb 2_5 -Lore Weapon Expansion -Natural Eyes - natural eyes high res -NoMaaM Breathing Idles BBB - female bbb and male breathing idles v0_1 -Project Reality - Climates of Tamriel-V3 -realistic Ragdolls and force -SG female textures renewal - UNP -Skyrim HD - 2k textures - SHD lite - Dungeons -Skyrim HD - 2k textures - shd lie - landscape -skyrim HD - 2k textures - shd lite - misc -skyrim hd - 2k textures - shd lite - riften -skyrom hd - 2k textures - shd lite - towns -skyui -static mesh improvement -unofficial dawngard patch -unofficial dragonborn patch -unofficial hearthfire patch -unofficial skyrim patch -unp blessed body - unpb redux project - unpb body nmm installer v2-5-2 fix -w.a.t.e.r - water and terrain enhancement redux -wearable lanterns - wearable lanterns 3_0b deactivated: ALSL Body - CBBE BBP TBBP Bodyslide Plus Plus presets BodyChange - A Multi-Bodyshape System - Bodychange English Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE- Calientes Vanilla Outfits for CBBE - Calientes Vanilla Armor -- Combined Pack v2-1-0 DIMONIZED UNP female body - UNP BASE Main body V1dot2 Edhildils Mithril Armors - Edhildils Mithril Armors V1_2 Enhanced Blood Textures KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat - Lockpick Pro v3 Realistic Lighting Overhaul Sporty Sexy Map - Athletic muscle mod CBBE UNP UNPB ADEC - 1- Sporty Blessed UNPB - Athletic muscle map Temptress Race - Temptress Complete v1_3 True Daughters of Skyrim XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS - XPMS 1-93a NMM-BAIN INSTALLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripple Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Ok, let's start from scratch... 1) Download TES5Edit and clean the plugins flagged by BOSS as containing 'drity edits' (except where the BOSS log explicitly states they are intentional and need not be cleaned), including the DLC and update esm's. By the look of the last BOSS log you posted, you didn't clean the DLC and official patch esm's. Do that now. Don't think about it, don't listen to people who say it might 'break your game' (it won't), just do it. 2) Download the 'BOSS Userlist Manager' (you can find it on Skyrim Nexus), install it, and add a custom rule for Hothtrooper44_Armor_Eckstraa.espso that it loads immediately above this plugin: Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espIgnore the missing 'spike.esm' message in the BOSS log. All of this will be probably be fixed in the next BOSS masterlist update (the BOSS team has a large backlog of mods they need to verify and add to the list, so give them time), but this will suffice for now. 3) If you keep getting the havoc problem in the introduction, where the carriage cart starts to bounce around everywhere, delete your skyrim.ini from '/Documents/.../Skyrim/', let the game generate a new ini on next launch (just open the launcher and it should create a new skyrim.ini), then add the following line to your new skyrim.in, under [General], like soi: [General] iFPSClamp=60See if that allows you to get through the introduction carriage ride without the havoc issue. If it does, then after you get through the carriage ride and can make a new save, exit the game and set the value of that ini entry from '60' to '0', or you may encounter some weird issues. 4) HighResTexturePack01.esp Active Checksum: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.esp You are missing the third plugin for the Hi-Res textures DLC. You may need to redownload that free DLC from Steam. After you do that, download the Unofficial Hi-Res DLC Patch. Edited February 16, 2014 by ripple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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