greaterfiend Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Is there a maximum amount of mods Skyrim can run at the same time? I had over 100 at one point, but Skyrim wouldn't even start. I got rid of a lot of them, even though I wanted to keep them, and it finally would start, but it still runs very slowly.
Oubliette Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 255 is the mod limit on all Bethesda's moddable games. This includes esp's and ESM files. Usually people start seeing instability somewhere around between 150-200 mods however your problems sound like mod conflicts coupled with too many high spec mods. Try going through your graphic enhancements and choosing lower resolutions and tossing any ENB your using and your game should speed right up. If you test when you install new mods it'll be easier to identify what is causing CTD's and therefore getting rid of only the problem mod or fixing the issue.
chanchan05 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) There's technically no limit to mods as long as you keep it below 255 plugins. Some mods have no plugins at all, so they don't count to that 255. It would be better if you post your PC specs as well as mod list, as "running slowly" sounds like your PC isn't capable of handling Skyrim with mods. Mods actually do put additional strain on the PC. Basically they increase the hardware requirements for playing the game. EDIT: What do you mean by "not starting"? Do you see the Bethesda logo then crash to desktop? That's usually just load order problem. Mods have to arranged in a certain order when loading to have them work properly. You don't install just willy-nilly. Try using BOSS to sort your load order. I'm running with almost 250plugins and is very stable. Edited February 19, 2014 by chanchan05
greaterfiend Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) What is ENB, Boss, and CTD? And i don't remember what my computers specs are, or how to find them out. I do know my computer has a 640 GB RAM, and I think quad core processer, but the other stuff i don't remember. What I mean by not starting is it doesn't start up. I don't even get as far as the round circle loading icon and it doesn't even turn black to signify it started up. Edited February 19, 2014 by greaterfiend
chanchan05 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Oh a newbie modder. Sorry. Let's start from scratch and try to keep it simple. 1. Computer specs: Go to Control Panel on your PC and open System and Security, then System. Processor and RAM information will be available there. You DO NOT have 640GB RAM because such doesn't exist yet, unless you travel in time :D . You're probably talking of the hard drive. It's different from RAM. As for the video card, go to Hardware and Sound in the Control Panel, and then look for either Nvidia Control Panel or Catalyst Control Center. The information for the graphics card will be there. 2. ENB is a graphics enhancement tweak that turns Skyrim's graphics to hyperrealistic. 3. BOSS stands for Better Oblivion Sorting Software. It's a tool you run to correctly arrange the mods you have installed in a working order. As you get more knowledgeable with mods you can even set custom rules for load orders using this. Here's a link: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/6/? Install it and run it after installing mods. It will open your browser afterwards to show you it's log for errors, mod incompatibilities, warnings, etc. 4. CTD means CRASH TO DESKTOP. Basically, what it says.
greaterfiend Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Processer: AMD A6-3400M APU with Radeon HD Graphics 1.4 GHzRAM: 4.00 GB (2.99 GB Usable)System Type: 32-bit OS I can't find either the Nvidia or Catalyst info, and I'm under Hardware and Sound.
chanchan05 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Oh ok. That means that you are using the integrated graphics chip on your processor. Is that a laptop? AFAIK that's a laptop chipset. I'm afraid what you're getting is a GPU bottleneck. The integrated graphics chip on your laptop is a Radeon HD 6290, a Class 4 laptop GPU which is at around minimum requirements for Skyrim. Basically, the game is playable in vanilla, but once you start modding it's going to be tricky. You have to play at the lowest available settings for Skyrim, and even lower than that probably (you can manually lower resolution to say, 1024x600) to keep playable FPS when modding. And you also cannot use mods that make the game look better, like improved textures, Enhanced Lights and FX (RLO is useable for you I think), or other mods that add increased graphical strain like mods that increase NPCs and NPC spawns. It's a balance between modding to make the game better and keeping it within your laptop's capabilities. Not three weeks ago I had a similar powered laptop (bought a new one) of about 3 years old running i5 dual core and a Radeon HD 7450, which is another class 4 GPU, slightly better than yours according to Notebookcheck.net. I was able to mod Skyrim up to around 200+ mods with it. It's just a matter of choosing your mods. Basically stay away from improved textures, ENB, and too much additional items in the world.
greaterfiend Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Well I remember it had a sticker that said something about Nvidia. I've played many games with more detail than most of the detail mods would give me, with less, and it has a quad core, that I know for a fact. The way it sounds with what your saying, I might as well quit Skyrim as there is nothing I have left to do, and the mods won't play. I have tried to play at lower resolutions, but I can't see s*** when I do, I have very bad eyesight, and glasses don't help me with pixelated stuff, so i couldn't play if I have to lower the resolution to lower than in game will let me. And according to the DXDiag, I have a AMD Radeon HD 6520G. Edited February 19, 2014 by greaterfiend
chanchan05 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) If you used to have an Nvidia sticker, then you have a dedicated chip in there somewhere. Check in Device Manager under Display Adapters, and tell us what you see there. EDIT: A quad core processor can't help if you're hitting max on your GPU. Your GPU is what limits how much detail and items you can load at a given time. If it's loading too much, frame rate suffers. Edited February 19, 2014 by chanchan05
chanchan05 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) I checked your AMD GPU, and still no difference. It's a Class 4 GPU still, and according to Notebookcheck.net, can only run Skyrim at 30FPS on low preset at 1280x720 resolution at 31FPS with possible stuttering. If you start to add mods, it's going to slow down. The only mods you can use with that are script based mods like Frostfall, Realistic Needs and Diseases, SkyRe even, because script based mods use CPU cycles more, not GPU. EDIT: I threw your specs at the Game-Debate analysis and here's what I got: Edited February 19, 2014 by chanchan05
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