slashnyaoi Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 For whatever reson, my NPCs have no eyes. They started out with only black eyes, I uninstalled Beautiful People, and now they have no eyes no matter what I do. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling beauty mods, but to no change. Suggestions? mods: dremora companionDLC - shivering isles and knights of nineknightsborhterhood renewedcreature diversitydairanath avarimale body replacer v4loading screens24hr arena aliveimproved sighnsdark illusion armorgloria armoriron maiden setcb rogue armornightshade armormod road rogueunderworld armordmc stylish- speical animssylish jumpoblivion citadel door fixunoffical patchUOPS additional changesUOP vampire aging & face fixmorrowind robers and dressesimpeREAL city unique districts - mergedcapes and cloakscaptain mollydark rose setGHEC rogue mage & scoundrelninja cowlwings of tyraelmidas spellsbetter dungeonsalive watersalive waters koialive waters slaughterfishkt_custome race fixdrop lit torchelz more voiceren guard overhaulcosmetic ocmplations - no jeepers or NPC changescosemic complicationcrazy hairskd dwemer sepctaclesanival bay expansionalluring potion bottleswater front makert no shackwaterfront marketnautral waternatural weathernatueral weather HDRnatural vegnatural habitatthieves arsenalcrowded cities 30idle dialoguedk imperialselves of lineage IIkaleen colorssynxx.races compmyth and legendsSM shivering islesnicos dreamweave bow and arrowsblack lusterkitrae exotic dual remakenexons aromorydremora campanionhentai maniaretur of shadowshear of the headVH bloodlineswerewolf - legendsshadowcrest vineyardcastle seaviewglenvar castlesnow dragon templeapachi goddess storep1d key chaineleborate eyestoggleable quantity promptMods I have but aren't 'checked'CM partnerscm parners extra NPCscm parntersCM partners marker NPCsCM partners special NPsCM partner more NPCsCM partners NPCDairAnath AvariBeautiful People V22 - male body replacer v4cosmetic compliation no npc changescosmetic complation no jeeperscrowded cities 15demon racesupreme magickaSM DLCs spell tomeSm scrollsSM Sigil stonecurse of hircinecidnothumpoH werewolves mixedCoH spawn rates increase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeTheDragon Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Elaborate Eyes is mostly incompatible with many other cosmetic mods. It changes the default eye meshes so they no longer work with default eye textures.If you intend to use any, like Cosmetic Compilation for example, you might need to get rid of EE and take care the default eye meshes will be restored to normal in the process. For any further diagnosis though we will need your Load Order. The official launcher will not give any useful information, sorting only alphabetically, so using one of the mod managers to manage your load order will be vital.And using that many different cosmetic mods, each one undoing just about all others, you will also need to get used to setting up and compiling a bashed patch in Wrye Bash rather soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bben46 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 It's been a while since I have seen this one - it was very common at one time. Eye problems of almost any kind - no eyes, black eyes, googly eyes are all caused by having multiple cosmetic mods that modify the eyes. Depending on the particular mods, sometimes just changing the load order can fix it, but others require you to make a decision on which mod to drop from your game. Not every mod that changes eyes will be obvious - some race mods or vampire mods will have changes to eyes also. Easiest way to troubleshoot - disable all mods that you believe may affect eyes - if your eyes return to vanilla you have a list of probable candidates. Put them back one at a time until you find which are conflicting. A load order list - the one from BOSS is best - would help if you want us to assist in finding the problem. And, BOSS may even fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashnyaoi Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Turned off elaborate eyes and it fixed it. That being said, what's my best bet for getting better looking NPCs without causing more issues? Here's my BOSS load order:Oblivion.esm ActiveDremoraCompanion.esm ActiveCM Partners.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.5 ActiveNote: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).UOPS Additional Changes.esp Version 3.3.7 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Stats}}UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 ActiveNote: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp ActiveDLCShiveringIsles.esp ActiveLoadingScreens.esp Version 1.0 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp ActiveNote: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp ActiveNote: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp ActiveNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp ActiveIdle Dialogue.esp Version 1.3 ActiveElzMoreVoice.esp ActiveAliveWaters.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 299 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideAliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideAliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp ActiveImprovedSigns.esp ActiveCrowded Cities 15.esp Version 1.2Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideCrowded Cities 30.esp Version 1.2 ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDropLitTorchOBSE.esp Version 2.4 ActiveDLCHorseArmor.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}Contains dirty edits: 3 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDLCOrrery.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages}}Contains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDLCVileLair.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 26 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDLCMehrunesRazor.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 21 ITM, 15 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDLCSpellTomes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Contains dirty edits: 40 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideMaleBodyReplacerV4.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Body-M, Body-Size-M}}BlackLuster.esp Version 3.1.5.e ActiveCapesandCloaks.esp ActiveCaptain_Molly_HGEC.esp ActiveDarkIllusionArmor.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 11 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideNico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp ActiveIron Maiden Set.esp ActiveKDDwemerSpectacles.esp ActiveKitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp ActiveMODRoadRogue.esp ActiveNexonsArmoryENG.esp Version 1.02 Activeninjacowl.esp ActiveUnderworld Armor.esp ActiveThieves Arsenal.esp ActiveRequires: OBSE.Contains dirty edits: 368 ITM, 1216 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideCB Rogue Armor.esp ActiveDarkRoseSet.esp ActiveMorrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp ActiveGloria Armor.esp ActiveHGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp ActiveDLCThievesDen.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Light, Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.Stats}}Contains dirty edits: 5 ITM, 135 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideAlluring Potion Bottles v3.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, MustBeActiveIfImported}}CurseOfHircine.esp Version 20CoH Werewolves Mixed.espCoH Spawn Rates Increased.espCreature Diversity.esp Version 1.12 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}Nightshade_Armor.esp ActiveAnvilBayExpansion.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Better Cities. Already included in Better Cities Anvil.Incompatible with: Open Cities Reborn.Bravil Docks.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Better Cities. Already included in Better Cities Bravil.BrotherhoodRenewed.esp Version 1.1.2 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions}}Dairânath Avari - male Companion.esp Version 1.2Hentai Mania.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Invent, Scripts, C.Owner}}Requires: HGEC, OBSEContains dirty edits: 1675 ITM, 425 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp ActiveIncompatible with: Better Cities Full or Better Cities IC components.Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideGlenvarCastle.esp Version 2.10 ActiveContains dirty edits: 38 ITM, 712 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide. Also see special cleaning instructions: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide#GlenvarCastle.esp_Special_Cleaning_Instructionsmythsandlegends.esp Version 2.0 ActiveNote: May cause NPCs to generate the message "The ghosts mouth moves but you cannot hear what he says."Return Of Shadows.esp Version 1.1 ActiveContains dirty edits: 0 ITM, 2 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideSnow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp Version 1.1 ActiveVHBloodlines 1.2.esp Version 1.4 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages}}Note: If you have SI installed, make sure you're using the update: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/36389Contains dirty edits: 45 ITM, 756 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideApachii_Goddess_Store.esp Version 1.6. Active24HrArenaAliveV2.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 5 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 5 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide24HrArenaAliveLow.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 4 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDLCFrostcrag.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Name, C.Owner, Factions}}Contains dirty edits: 73 ITM, 94 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideKnights.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}Contains dirty edits: 121 ITM, 257 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideShadowcrest_Vineyard.esp ActiveHeartOftheDead.esp Version 6.5 ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Hair}}WaterfrontMarket.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideWaterfrontMarketNoShack.esp ActiveCastle_Seaview.esp ActiveNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp ActiveNote: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.Better Dungeons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Light, C.Water}}P1DkeyChain.esp Version 5.00 ActiveToggleable Quantity Prompt.esp Version 3.2.0 ActiveWerewolf-Legends.esp ActiveContains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideSupremeMagicka.esp Version 0.90bBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Names, Graphics}}Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.SM_ShiveringIsles.esp Version 0.90 ActiveContains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideSM_DLCSpellTome.esp Version 0.90SM_Scrolls.esp Version 0.90SM_SigilStone.esp Version 0.90MidasSpells.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}}RenGuardOverhaul.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData}}DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Anims}}Stylish Jump.esp ActiveCazy Hairs.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair}}Cosmetic Compilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'Cosmetic Compilation - No JPeepers.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'Cosmetic Compilation - No JPeepers or NPC Changes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'CM Partners.espKaleencolors.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}DemonRace.esp Version 2.9.16Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}Elves Of Lineage II.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}DKImperials.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}Synx.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}X.Races.Comp.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Graphics}}Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Body-M, Body-Size-M, Graphics}}CM Partners Special NPCs.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}CM Partners NPC.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}Note: Use only one Essential or NotEssential version espContains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideCM Partners More NPCs.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}Note: Use only one Essential or NotEssential version espCM Partners Marker NPCs.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}CM Partners Extra NPCs.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_GuideDairanath Avari - male Companion.esp Version 1.2 ActiveDremoraCompanion.esp ActiveNote: May be incompatible with plugins affecting sleep.Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}Contains dirty edits: 34 ITM, 12 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guidecidnothump.espBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Sound}}Note: If using Mighty Magic, use 'cidnothumpMMversion.esp' instead.KT_CustomRaceFix.esp Active Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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