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For whatever reson, my NPCs have no eyes. They started out with only black eyes, I uninstalled Beautiful People, and now they have no eyes no matter what I do. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling beauty mods, but to no change. Suggestions?

 

mods:

 

  • dremora companion
  • DLC - shivering isles and knights of nine
  • knights
  • borhterhood renewed
  • creature diversity
  • dairanath avari
  • male body replacer v4
  • loading screens
  • 24hr arena alive
  • improved sighns
  • dark illusion armor
  • gloria armor
  • iron maiden set
  • cb rogue armor
  • nightshade armor
  • mod road rogue
  • underworld armor
  • dmc stylish- speical anims
  • sylish jump
  • oblivion citadel door fix
  • unoffical patch
  • UOPS additional changes
  • UOP vampire aging & face fix
  • morrowind robers and dresses
  • impeREAL city unique districts - merged
  • capes and cloaks
  • captain molly
  • dark rose set
  • GHEC rogue mage & scoundrel
  • ninja cowl
  • wings of tyrael
  • midas spells
  • better dungeons
  • alive waters
  • alive waters koi
  • alive waters slaughterfish
  • kt_custome race fix
  • drop lit torch
  • elz more voice
  • ren guard overhaul
  • cosmetic ocmplations - no jeepers or NPC changes
  • cosemic complication
  • crazy hairs
  • kd dwemer sepctacles
  • anival bay expansion
  • alluring potion bottles
  • water front makert no shack
  • waterfront market
  • nautral water
  • natural weather
  • natueral weather HDR
  • natural veg
  • natural habitat
  • thieves arsenal
  • crowded cities 30
  • idle dialogue
  • dk imperials
  • elves of lineage II
  • kaleen colors
  • synx
  • x.races comp
  • myth and legends
  • SM shivering isles
  • nicos dreamweave bow and arrows
  • black luster
  • kitrae exotic dual remake
  • nexons aromory
  • dremora campanion
  • hentai mania
  • retur of shadows
  • hear of the head
  • VH bloodlines
  • werewolf - legends
  • shadowcrest vineyard
  • castle seaview
  • glenvar castle
  • snow dragon temple
  • apachi goddess store
  • p1d key chain
  • eleborate eyes
  • toggleable quantity prompt

Mods I have but aren't 'checked'

  • CM partners
  • cm parners extra NPCs
  • cm parnters
  • CM partners marker NPCs
  • CM partners special NPs
  • CM partner more NPCs
  • CM partners NPC
  • DairAnath Avari
  • Beautiful People V22 - male body replacer v4
  • cosmetic compliation no npc changes
  • cosmetic complation no jeepers
  • crowded cities 15
  • demon race
  • supreme magicka
  • SM DLCs spell tome
  • Sm scrolls
  • SM Sigil stone
  • curse of hircine
  • cidnothump
  • oH werewolves mixed
  • CoH spawn rates increase
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Elaborate Eyes is mostly incompatible with many other cosmetic mods. It changes the default eye meshes so they no longer work with default eye textures.

If you intend to use any, like Cosmetic Compilation for example, you might need to get rid of EE and take care the default eye meshes will be restored to normal in the process.

 

For any further diagnosis though we will need your Load Order. The official launcher will not give any useful information, sorting only alphabetically, so using one of the mod managers to manage your load order will be vital.

And using that many different cosmetic mods, each one undoing just about all others, you will also need to get used to setting up and compiling a bashed patch in Wrye Bash rather soon.

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It's been a while since I have seen this one - it was very common at one time. Eye problems of almost any kind - no eyes, black eyes, googly eyes are all caused by having multiple cosmetic mods that modify the eyes. Depending on the particular mods, sometimes just changing the load order can fix it, but others require you to make a decision on which mod to drop from your game.

 

Not every mod that changes eyes will be obvious - some race mods or vampire mods will have changes to eyes also.

 

Easiest way to troubleshoot - disable all mods that you believe may affect eyes - if your eyes return to vanilla you have a list of probable candidates. Put them back one at a time until you find which are conflicting.

 

A load order list - the one from BOSS is best - would help if you want us to assist in finding the problem. And, BOSS may even fix it.

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Turned off elaborate eyes and it fixed it.

 

That being said, what's my best bet for getting better looking NPCs without causing more issues?

 

Here's my BOSS load order:

  • Oblivion.esm Active
  • DremoraCompanion.esm Active
  • CM Partners.esm
  • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.5 Active
    • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).
  • UOPS Additional Changes.esp Version 3.3.7 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Stats}}
  • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active
    • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".
  • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Active
  • DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active
  • LoadingScreens.esp Version 1.0 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
  • Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
    • Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.
  • Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
    • Note: Original mod is heavily bugged. Make sure you are using Ryu Doppler's fixed version.
  • Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
  • Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
  • Idle Dialogue.esp Version 1.3 Active
  • ElzMoreVoice.esp Active
  • AliveWaters.esp Active
  • AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp Active
  • AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp Active
  • ImprovedSigns.esp Active
  • Crowded Cities 15.esp Version 1.2
  • Crowded Cities 30.esp Version 1.2 Active
  • DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Version 2.4 Active
  • DLCHorseArmor.esp Active
  • DLCOrrery.esp Active
  • DLCVileLair.esp Active
  • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Active
  • DLCSpellTomes.esp Active
  • MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Body-M, Body-Size-M}}
  • BlackLuster.esp Version 3.1.5.e Active
  • CapesandCloaks.esp Active
  • Captain_Molly_HGEC.esp Active
  • DarkIllusionArmor.esp Active
  • Nico's Dreadweave Bow and Arrows.esp Active
  • Iron Maiden Set.esp Active
  • KDDwemerSpectacles.esp Active
  • KitRae Exotic Dual Remake.esp Active
  • MODRoadRogue.esp Active
  • NexonsArmoryENG.esp Version 1.02 Active
  • ninjacowl.esp Active
  • Underworld Armor.esp Active
  • Thieves Arsenal.esp Active
  • CB Rogue Armor.esp Active
  • DarkRoseSet.esp Active
  • Morrowind Robes and Dresses for HGEC.esp Active
  • Gloria Armor.esp Active
  • HGEC Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp Active
  • DLCThievesDen.esp Active
  • Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics, MustBeActiveIfImported}}
  • CurseOfHircine.esp Version 20
  • CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp
  • CoH Spawn Rates Increased.esp
  • Creature Diversity.esp Version 1.12 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
  • Nightshade_Armor.esp Active
  • AnvilBayExpansion.esp Active
    • Incompatible with: Better Cities. Already included in Better Cities Anvil.
    • Incompatible with: Open Cities Reborn.
  • Bravil Docks.esp Active
    • Incompatible with: Better Cities. Already included in Better Cities Bravil.
  • BrotherhoodRenewed.esp Version 1.1.2 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions}}
  • Dairânath Avari - male Companion.esp Version 1.2
  • Hentai Mania.esp Active
  • ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - All the Districts - Merged.esp Active
  • GlenvarCastle.esp Version 2.10 Active
  • mythsandlegends.esp Version 2.0 Active
    • Note: May cause NPCs to generate the message "The ghosts mouth moves but you cannot hear what he says."
  • Return Of Shadows.esp Version 1.1 Active
  • Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp Version 1.1 Active
  • VHBloodlines 1.2.esp Version 1.4 Active
  • Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Version 1.6. Active
  • 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp Active
  • 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp Active
  • 24HrArenaAliveLow.esp Active
  • DLCFrostcrag.esp Active
  • Knights.esp Active
  • Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp Active
  • HeartOftheDead.esp Version 6.5 Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Hair}}
  • WaterfrontMarket.esp Active
  • WaterfrontMarketNoShack.esp Active
  • Castle_Seaview.esp Active
  • Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp Active
    • Note: Put before Unique Landscape mods to return tree sizes there to normal.
  • Better Dungeons.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Light, C.Water}}
  • P1DkeyChain.esp Version 5.00 Active
  • Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp Version 3.2.0 Active
  • Werewolf-Legends.esp Active
  • SupremeMagicka.esp Version 0.90b
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Names, Graphics}}
    • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
  • SM_ShiveringIsles.esp Version 0.90 Active
  • SM_DLCSpellTome.esp Version 0.90
  • SM_Scrolls.esp Version 0.90
  • SM_SigilStone.esp Version 0.90
  • MidasSpells.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Invent}}
  • RenGuardOverhaul.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIData}}
  • DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.Anims}}
  • Stylish Jump.esp Active
  • Cazy Hairs.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair}}
  • Cosmetic Compilation.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}
  • Cosmetic Compilation - No NPC Changes.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}
    • Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'
  • Cosmetic Compilation - No JPeepers.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}
    • Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'
  • Cosmetic Compilation - No JPeepers or NPC Changes.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes}}
    • Note: Use only one 'Cosmetic Compilation*.esp'
  • CM Partners.esp
  • Kaleencolors.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}
  • DemonRace.esp Version 2.9.16
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}
  • Elves Of Lineage II.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Relations}}
  • DKImperials.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}
  • Synx.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}
  • X.Races.Comp.esp Active
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Graphics}}
  • Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, Body-M, Body-Size-M, Graphics}}
  • CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}
  • CM Partners NPC.esp
  • CM Partners More NPCs.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}
    • Note: Use only one Essential or NotEssential version esp
  • CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Hair, Eyes}}
  • CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
  • Dairanath Avari - male Companion.esp Version 1.2 Active
  • DremoraCompanion.esp Active
  • cidnothump.esp
    • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Sound}}
    • Note: If using Mighty Magic, use 'cidnothumpMMversion.esp' instead.
  • KT_CustomRaceFix.esp Active
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